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  • 14-01-2015 2:45pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44


    In general, which usually works out dearer, 1st or 2nd fix? 1st fix is done and have paid 1650, just wondering would it be impossible to get someone to 2nd fix for 1350? Nothing special to be done, light fittings etc. We also have generator box. We might need someone else to do 2nd fix but is it unreasonable to wan it done for 1350, including 7 outside lights?


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    Impossible to say, depends on many variables such as the installation, number of points, length of cable runs, number of cables, type of cables, overall design and type of second fix equipment selected/ specified.

    Most Reistered Electrical Contractors would be reluctant to finish someone else's work. Generally they would not be able to certify same. There are procedures for this, but these only apply in exceptional circumstances such as the electrician leaving the country before the work is completed or dropping dead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 76 ✭✭086lavey


    Had your electrician a price in for first and second fix at the start , as said above , most registered electricians would not touch some else work ,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭solargain


    Fuseboard , bonding , heating contols all make the second fix dearer


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    solargain wrote: »
    Fuseboard , bonding , heating contols all make the second fix dearer


    Not necessarily.
    Cabling can be very expensive due to the ever increasing cost of copper. Installation of same can be very costly too. Then chasing has to be considered.

    Long cable runs for bonding go in as part of 1st fix.
    The rest of the bonding is normally done with scraps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,877 ✭✭✭✭Calahonda52


    Angel2009 wrote: »
    ... Nothing special to be done, light fittings etc. We also have generator box.
    :)
    Is this labour only?

    As well as what's mentioned there is testing to be done as well as paperwork.

    Count all the sockets, lights, switches, TV, fone,broadband,video.CCTV points you need connecting and allocate a price of fitting for each.
    At 20 euros a pop, that's c 70 items.
    I have 50 down-lighters alone...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 463 ✭✭grousedogtom


    In general my experience is 1st fixing is more expensive taking chasing and labour into account, but every situation is different


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 Angel2009


    Thanks everyone for your replies.

    Its very hard to know so we will have to wait and see when elected comes to see the job. He is registered and knows of the guy who did first fix. The price was for both firs and second fix, with a few extras in there. We though it was a very good price but we really should have priced around as it seems too good to be true.

    Thanks again


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭Risteard81


    As stated no RECI Contractor can certify a new installation not constructed by him. I can't really see separate contractors being responsible for 1st and 2nd fix being an option. The only possible way is with a Change of Contractor form, although I'm not sure that there are valid reasons in this instance.

    I presume the same rule applies to the other crowd also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭Tom44


    My public liability insurance covers all work I do. Not somebody elses. Bit of a limbo I'm afraid !


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    If part of the installation does not work properly you may find that neither electrical contractor will take ownership of the issue.

    IMHO it is best to pay one company to do all of the electrical work from start to finish.


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