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Regular Savings

  • 10-01-2015 7:47pm
    #1
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    I'm looking into a regular savings account and I see that Nationwide UK Ireland has the best interest rate at 4%. Even when you take DIRT & banking fees (for me to transfer money by standing order), it's much more appealing than other banks and saving institutions.

    Seems mad that other institutions are not competing on this.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 412 ✭✭better call saul


    Sully wrote: »
    I'm looking into a regular savings account and I see that Nationwide UK Ireland has the best interest rate at 4%. Even when you take DIRT & banking fees (for me to transfer money by standing order), it's much more appealing than other banks and saving institutions.

    Seems mad that other institutions are not competing on this.

    First thing to get into is why are you paying fees for banking? PTSB has zero fees if you transfer in 1500 a month for example, things like this need to be tightened up before you consider savings rates, feel free to pm me for insight


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    First thing to get into is why are you paying fees for banking? PTSB has zero fees if you transfer in 1500 a month for example, things like this need to be tightened up before you consider savings rates, feel free to pm me for insight

    Arah I've a few accounts with AIB including business accounts, I find their banking website and customer care excellent so switching is putting me off a tad! Plus, I believe that Permanent will introduce charges soon just as Ulster Bank did. Their going to have to recoup their losses from somewhere!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 412 ✭✭better call saul


    Sully wrote: »
    Arah I've a few accounts with AIB including business accounts, I find their banking website and customer care excellent so switching is putting me off a tad! Plus, I believe that Permanent will introduce charges soon just as Ulster Bank did. Their going to have to recoup their losses from somewhere!

    I moved from aib to PTSB, found PTSB to be far superior in my experiences so far YMMV


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 412 ✭✭better call saul


    Also, depending on your age and your capital at the moment:

    When youre young, the RATE you save at is far more important than INTEREST.

    IE. as in how much are you saving every month


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    Also, depending on your age and your capital at the moment:

    When youre young, the RATE you save at is far more important than INTEREST.

    IE. as in how much are you saving every month

    Why would that make any difference (age)?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,557 ✭✭✭JTMan


    Sully wrote: »
    Seems mad that other institutions are not competing on this.

    It's not mad. It is business logic. Other banks rely on consumer laziness. Why bother competing when only a small section of your customers will switch.

    Also, the Nationwide UK (Ireland) 4.00% AER variable rate is a loss making new customers enticing rate. Well worth taking advantage of.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 412 ✭✭better call saul


    Sully wrote: »
    Why would that make any difference (age)?

    If you are 21 fresh outta college, no point worrying about interest rates on what little you can save, you are better off figuring out how to maximise the amount you can save each month - ie. the interest will be negligible


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭tomfoolery60


    If you are 21 fresh outta college, no point worrying about interest rates on what little you can save, you are better off figuring out how to maximise the amount you can save each month - ie. the interest will be negligible

    Agreed - basically unless you're siting on a few hundred grand of cash the difference in rates won't make much difference. Obviously go for the best but don't get too caught up on 0.5%-1% differences. Much more important is the (much more difficult) task of actually salting away the moola every week/month!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 412 ✭✭better call saul


    Agreed - basically unless you're siting on a few hundred grand of cash the difference in rates won't make much difference. Obviously go for the best but don't get too caught up on 0.5%-1% differences. Much more important is the (much more difficult) task of actually salting away the moola every week/month!

    Yeah exactly, dirt eats almost half of it up anyway! Plus if you earn DIRT of something like €600 a year the revenue can come upon you to explain where you got the savings from, had it happen to me.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    Full time employment, & late 20s. Just looking to start saving some of my salary every month so was looking around for savings accounts.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,557 ✭✭✭JTMan


    If you are 21 fresh outta college, no point worrying about interest rates on what little you can save,

    Every little helps. The rate matters.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    Over a year on, I am now looking to see what next with my savings. Nationwide are handy, but with the hours I work it's hard to reach them as they only open during business hours and their website is a tad difficult. I'll try get time to chat with them about what's saved and what the interest will now be a year on before deciding do I stop the savings there and save elsewhere with better interest, or take the lump sum elsewhere to give the funds a bit of a boost.

    Any thoughts?

    I'm also now considering starting a pension, but it may be biting of a bit too much more than I can chew as my salary is poor at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 413 ✭✭Merowig


    Sully wrote: »

    Any thoughts?

    I'm also now considering starting a pension, but it may be biting of a bit too much more than I can chew as my salary is poor at the moment.

    I would still consider one - even if you just pay something like 20 Euro a month - as starting early helps - and you will make an habit out of it.
    Plus the tax incentive is a bit like free money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,557 ✭✭✭JTMan


    Sully wrote: »
    Over a year on, I am now looking to see what next with my savings. Nationwide are handy, but with the hours I work it's hard to reach them as they only open during business hours and their website is a tad difficult. I'll try get time to chat with them about what's saved and what the interest will now be a year on before deciding do I stop the savings there and save elsewhere with better interest, or take the lump sum elsewhere to give the funds a bit of a boost.

    Any thoughts?

    I'm also now considering starting a pension, but it may be biting of a bit too much more than I can chew as my salary is poor at the moment.

    Where exactly is your savings now? Is your savings with Nationwide UK (Ireland)?

    Are you looking for a new regular saver product? Have you considered KBC?


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    JTMan wrote: »
    Where exactly is your savings now? Is your savings with Nationwide UK (Ireland)?

    Yeah, it should be about to mature. Going to make a few calls to confirm.

    Are you looking for a new regular saver product? Have you considered KBC?

    Yeah, I can't continue with Nationwide and avail of their good rate savings wise so I think KBC is the way to go next but my question is what I do with the lump sum I now have - keep it where it is at the lower rate or move it somewhere else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,557 ✭✭✭JTMan


    The KBC Extra Regular Saver:
    - Allows a 10k lump sum.
    - Pays 4.00% AER variable.
    - Standing order monthly deposits up to 1k per month.
    - Requires a current account to be opened but there are no fees with the current account provided you deposit at least 2,500 EUR into the account per month.

    Perhaps, this might product suit you.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    JTMan wrote: »
    The KBC Extra Regular Saver:
    - Allows a 10k lump sum.
    - Pays 4.00% AER variable.
    - Standing order monthly deposits up to 1k per month.
    - Requires a current account to be opened but there are no fees with the current account provided you deposit at least 2,500 EUR into the account per month.

    Perhaps, this might product suit you.

    The last point is a snag. A clever idea by KBC in fairness


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭Squall Leonhart


    Sully wrote:
    I'm also now considering starting a pension, but it may be biting of a bit too much more than I can chew as my salary is poor at the moment.

    Merowig wrote:
    I would still consider one - even if you just pay something like 20 Euro a month - as starting early helps - and you will make an habit out of it. Plus the tax incentive is a bit like free money.


    I'd echo Merowig's sentiments. I know Irish Life have a minimum pension payment of 50/month, but this can be paused at any time.

    If you're on the 20% tax rate, your 50 contribution will only cost you 40 euro as the other 10eur will be given as tax credit.

    If you're on the 40% income tax band, it'll only cost you 30eur for your 50eur contribution. Like Merowig said, it's like free money.

    Start today!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    Sully wrote: »
    The last point is a snag. A clever idea by KBC in fairness

    you said you have a lump sum. Just set up a dd to lodge 2500 into the current account on the 1st and out again on the 2nd


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,557 ✭✭✭JTMan


    you said you have a lump sum. Just set up a dd to lodge 2500 into the current account on the 1st and out again on the 2nd

    Yeah, obviously the outbound DD needs to be for 1,500 EUR.


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