Pajero swb

whacker1982 · 09-01-2015 8:43pm #1

thinking of buying one, anyone got one of these jeeps, wat are they like on diesel? 2.5? Hope to get a 01 to 03. Would turbo be the way to go or non turbo? Automatic and so on? Thanks people

TrailerBob · 09-01-2015 9:41pm

2.5 is underpowered really, and some of them have been known to eat flywheels. They're generally fine, but wouldn't have been my first choice. I have always thought the older model was a better machine.

whacker1982 · 09-01-2015 9:46pm

TrailerBob wrote: »

2.5 is underpowered really, and some of them have been known to eat flywheels. They're generally fine, but wouldn't have been my first choice. I have always thought the older model was a better machine.

Wat about the 3.2? I heard the older machines are less troublesome alright, costly too

TrailerBob · 09-01-2015 10:57pm

Drove a 3.2 a couple of years back, and it had plenty of power. I just didn't find it a nice machine to drive. I feel the 2nd gen Pajero was ahead of its time , but the 01 onwards were a bit lumpy and unpleasant.

Kevin McCloud · 09-01-2015 11:18pm

Agree with trailor bob on the above post, a 2.8 2nd generation unmolested pajero would be no bad move.

whacker1982 · 09-01-2015 11:23pm

What years would be good for a second generation model? Are they generally all thirsty on diesel? Thanks lads

Kevin McCloud · 09-01-2015 11:34pm

The 2.8 averages between 20-25mpg, the 2.8 went all the ways up to the facelift model to 99. Some call that model the bubbly arch one. I prefer the original generation 2 one 91-97. They are getting scarce one with low milage and rust free. Far superior jeep to the 01-03 imo though.
The facelift 2.8 has more power it has the edc pump and more electronics it puts out 140hp in relation to the 91-97 120hp. The older 2.8s can be tweeked very easily to loosen out a few more horses which brings them very close to the face lift model also.

whacker1982 · 09-01-2015 11:40pm

Wow 20-25mpg I would have never thought they would have been that poor on diesel. It's after throwing me on the pajeros. I need something to pull my boat the car is just not up to it. It's only a 1.4 Astra. Any ideas on what jeep would be best suited for me? I'm looking to get 40mpg out of a jeep if that's even possible.
Also if I had a 2 liter diesel car wat are they rated to pull, sorry now to go off the pajero topic.

Kevin McCloud · 09-01-2015 11:44pm

A 01-03 pajero wont deliver that mpg. I think you will find them figures hard to achieve especially towing.
What sort of weight is your boat and trailer combined?

whacker1982 · 09-01-2015 11:47pm

Kevin McCloud wrote: »

A 01-03 pajero wont deliver that mpg. I think you will find them figures hard to achieve especially towing.
What sort of weight is your boat and trailer combined?

Well I was hoping to get the 40mpg without towing just every day travelling. And when the boat is on it guzzles wat ever it guzzles. At a guess I'd say about a ton in weight that's boat engine and trailer

TrailerBob · 09-01-2015 11:50pm

Ah... The old chestnut... I want to tow a million tons , but want it to run on fumes!!! Mutually exclusive for the most part. Though it depends on the weight of your boat and trailer. A lot of 2 litre crossover types like the Kuga are rated for 2 tons, and will pass your 40mpg target, but I'm assuming they would be out of budget based on your OP.

Passat will tow about 1800kg I think...so I reckon you'd be pushing it there. I've grown to live with 32mpg out of the Landcruiser, because it ticks every box for towing, reliability etc...

Edit.... If your boat is only a ton, then get a passat or similar decent sized car. no need for 4x4... None of the proper ones will even smell 40 mpg

whacker1982 · 09-01-2015 11:54pm

TrailerBob wrote: »

Ah... The old chestnut... I want to tow a million tons , but want it to run on fumes!!! Mutually exclusive for the most part. Though it depends on the weight of your boat and trailer. A lot of 2 litre crossover types like the Kuga are rated for 2 tons, and will pass your 40mpg target, but I'm assuming they would be out of budget based on your OP.

Passat will tow about 1800kg I think...so I reckon you'd be pushing it there. I've grown to live with 32mpg out of the Landcruiser, because it ticks every box for towing, reliability etc...

Edit.... If your boat is only a ton, then get a passat or similar decent sized car. no need for 4x4... None of the proper ones will even smell 40 mpg

Yes I agree the land cruisers are a nice jeep without a doubt but the price is high there, but you get wat you pay for I guess. If the passat are 1800kg it would be suited to pull my boat at 1000kg

Kevin McCloud · 09-01-2015 11:57pm

Have you got the car and trailer licence the EB one as its being enforced more in some areas and if the boat is only being moved into water and out of water twice a year would it justify you getting a jeep or do you move the boat alot?

TrailerBob · 09-01-2015 11:57pm

I'd have no hesitation pulling a ton or more with a passat. I had a 2001 tdi before the jeep, and it pulled all sorts, including cars on a transporter, and 176 blocks out of a quarry

TrailerBob · 10-01-2015 12:01am

Kevin, he wouldn't need an EB license if the boat and trailer combined was less than 1500 kg. Then his total, even with a full passat would be less than 3.5 ton

whacker1982 · 10-01-2015 12:01am

TrailerBob wrote: »

I'd have no hesitation pulling a ton or more with a passat. I had a 2001 tdi before the jeep, and it pulled all sorts, including cars on a transporter, and 176 blocks out of a quarry

Girlfriend has a tdi passat and they are a very solid car on the road

whacker1982 · 10-01-2015 12:02am

Kevin McCloud wrote: »

Have you got the car and trailer licence the EB one as its being enforced more in some areas and if the boat is only being moved into water and out of water twice a year would it justify you getting a jeep or do you move the boat alot?

Not much to be honest just in the summer time once every couple of weeks or so, and the very rare time in winter. Lake is an hour away

Kevin McCloud · 10-01-2015 12:09am

What kind of milage are you clocking up annually roughly?

whacker1982 · 10-01-2015 12:11am

Kevin McCloud wrote: »

What kind of milage are you clocking up annually roughly?

11000 miles is say

ItsLikeThis · 10-01-2015 12:21am

I used to tow the rib with a passat, fine except a bit dodgy on wet slips and hill starts. Got a pajero now aswell to do the towing. Sore on fuel, but definitely better with 4x4

whacker1982 · 10-01-2015 12:25am

ItsLikeThis wrote: »

I used to tow the rib with a passat, fine except a bit dodgy on wet slips and hill starts. Got a pajero now aswell to do the towing. Sore on fuel, but definitely better with 4x4

I could see that happening with the passat alright, with the 4x4 you would have the confidence for it to do the job

Kevin McCloud · 10-01-2015 12:27am

A 4x4 has its limitations too, learned that the hard way. Yes better than 2wd of course. Have you test driven a 01-03 pajero op?

whacker1982 · 10-01-2015 12:28am

Kevin McCloud wrote: »

A 4x4 has its limitations too, learned that the hard way. Yes better than 2wd of course. Have you test driven a 01-03 pajero op?

No never got to test drive one, why you ask?

Kevin McCloud · 10-01-2015 12:30am

whacker1982 wrote: »

No never got to test drive one, why you ask?

To see what they are like, test drive a gen 2 also. Dont buy a jeep on its looks or how new the reg is.

kay 9 · 10-01-2015 12:47am

The older pajeros are more straight forward but harder on diesel and not as comfortable. The mk3 dmf is a weak point and is worth noting it ain't cheap,been there done that. Got an auto box and it's leagues ahead for towing and general driving and does 24-28 mpg towing or not. The manual will do a bit more mpg (my old 3.2 swb did 30/32) but the flywheel is a nightmare. But, if you're only going to be towing a ton then something like a vitara is ideal and they're good machines off road too. Best of luck with whatever your decide on

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