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Asking about salary..

  • 08-01-2015 11:37pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,096 ✭✭✭


    Currently sussing out jobs in Ireland...unlike here in the UK, few jobs have a salary in the job description. I would like to know BEFORE I take the time to complete an application what I'm going to get, even roughly, if successful.
    What's the etiquette?
    Thanks!


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,768 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    Unsure if this directly answers the OP but is there equivalents to the salary surveys of brightwater or morgan McKinley. With those telling the industry norms one could mention the standard for ones location, experience and role.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭Gits_bone


    FME, the salaries on ads are higher than ones disclosed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,263 ✭✭✭✭Eoin


    Currently sussing out jobs in Ireland...unlike here in the UK, few jobs have a salary in the job description. I would like to know BEFORE I take the time to complete an application what I'm going to get, even roughly, if successful.
    What's the etiquette?
    Thanks!

    Unfortunately (and pretty oddly given that most people are in it for the money), a lot of employers get a bit sniffy if it's asked before the application or even during the interview, unless they bring it up first.

    I don't agree with it - it's a waste of everyone's time - but that is the unsaid etiquette a lot of the time.

    If you can't get enough info from salary surveys, you might have to do a bit of networking and try and get the lowdown from people who know the company in question.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,096 ✭✭✭LadyMayBelle


    Eoin wrote: »
    Unfortunately (and pretty oddly given that most people are in it for the money), a lot of employers get a bit sniffy if it's asked before the application or even during the interview, unless they bring it up first.

    I don't agree with it - it's a waste of everyone's time - but that is the unsaid etiquette a lot of the time.

    If you can't get enough info from salary surveys, you might have to do a bit of networking and try and get the lowdown from people who know the company in question.

    Thanks!
    It IS a waste of everyone's time- especially if I were lucky to get an interview and then finance travelling back to ireland etc only to discover the salary is not what I hoped for. Even a ball park figure like they do with most UK job ads! Frustrating! Thanks for the advice everyone


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 824 ✭✭✭Kinet1c


    I've gone through a full interview process (multiple phone interviews, psychometric tests, multiple onsite interviews) only to be low balled on the offer. While I'm not looking for work now, any time a recruiter now messages me on LinkedIn I'll state that I would only move for X + benefits. It cuts out the waffle and avoids wasting my time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,022 ✭✭✭skallywag


    For someone near the start of their career it would be unusual enough to ask about salary before you even fill out the application, though I agree completely that not having an indicator on this early on in the application process can lead to a colossal waste of time on all sides. When I interview myself I will always make sure to ask the candidate for their salary expectation during the first dialogue, which is most usually a first level phone interview.

    On the otherhand if you are coming with plenty of past experience which is relevant to the position it would be norm to ask almost immediately for a salary ballpark figure, particularly if you have been contacted by a recruitment agency, etc.


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