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IGA conference

  • 07-01-2015 1:06pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭


    Anyone attending? Looks a good line up


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭Deepsouthwest


    Anyone attending? Looks a good line up

    Yes, haven't been for a few yrs, but normally enjoy their summer tour whenever I've made it. No harm to get a different take on things, even though there's a lot of crossover between Teagasc and these guys. Heading to positive farmers as well nxt wk, first time going there, so not sure what to expect. Going with a guy who swears by it, and a bit of positivity for this yr might be a good thing. V expensive conference though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,585 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Yes, haven't been for a few yrs, but normally enjoy their summer tour whenever I've made it. No harm to get a different take on things, even though there's a lot of crossover between Teagasc and these guys. Heading to positive farmers as well nxt wk, first time going there, so not sure what to expect. Going with a guy who swears by it, and a bit of positivity for this yr might be a good thing. V expensive conference though.

    Did u read the doom and gloom predictions from one of the key speakers of that positive farmers conference !!,never attended one but heard poor reports .grassland one should be interesting.last summers one was pretty good


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    Heading down tonight, few pints yum yum


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭Deepsouthwest


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Did u read the doom and gloom predictions from one of the key speakers of that positive farmers conference !!,never attended one but heard poor reports .grassland one should be interesting.last summers one was pretty good

    Come on mj don't piss on my parade after I've paid for the tickets!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭Deepsouthwest


    Heading down tonight, few pints yum yum

    I must keep an eye out for a strongly opinionated hungover looking dude tomorrow!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,585 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    Come on mj don't piss on my parade after I've paid for the tickets!

    Sure Gwan for a gawk anyway won't do any harm,never at the positive farmers one just second hand report so could be totally wrong .post an auld report and prove my second hand report wrong!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    I went to positive farmers conference one yr was an interesting line up but too long of a day IMO. Half went to bar rest stayed in but some fell asleep.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    If I'm at a conference and a speaker doesn't grab me in the first 5 mins I head for coffee.

    Sit near front near aisle always an exit at that end


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭Deepsouthwest


    If I'm at a conference and a speaker doesn't grab me in the first 5 mins I head for coffee.

    Sit near front near aisle always an exit at that end

    No need for coffee for me tomo, I'm getting dropped off and collected after by my wife, and being given €2 for chips. Staying overnight nxt wk for the positive farmers one, that could be a different story!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    I must keep an eye out for a strongly opinionated hungover looking dude tomorrow!

    Moi, opinionated ????

    I've only ever hit the ignore button once on Boards when someone accused me of lying. You're coming close with such an assertion :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭Coonagh


    No need for coffee for me tomo, I'm getting dropped off and collected after by my wife, and being given €2 for chips. Staying overnight nxt wk for the positive farmers one, that could be a different story!

    I did the over night at the positive farmers last year, right good session and great opportunity to meet people in a relaxed setting. Doing the same this year, can't say I agree with the way Mike Murphy is publicising it though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭Deepsouthwest


    Coonagh wrote: »
    I did the over night at the positive farmers last year, right good session and great opportunity to meet people in a relaxed setting. Doing the same this year, can't say I agree with the way Mike Murphy is publicising it though.

    Haven't really done any reading up on it. Promised a guy a while back that I'd go with him, so just gonna go with the flow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭Coonagh


    There is some good speakers lined up for it but like frazzled I position myself fairly close to an exit just incase they don't grab me. GG is right it does tend to be a long day. I had planned to head to the IGA conference but can't get away this week I will look forward to an unbiased report from frazzled later on


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Coonagh wrote: »
    There is some good speakers lined up for it but like frazzled I position myself fairly close to an exit just incase they don't grab me. GG is right it does tend to be a long day. I had planned to head to the IGA conference but can't get away this week I will look forward to an unbiased report from frazzled later on
    Might have to wait a few days for that after he recovers from beer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,566 ✭✭✭J.O. Farmer


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Did u read the doom and gloom predictions from one of the key speakers of that positive farmers conference !!,never attended one but heard poor reports .grassland one should be interesting.last summers one was pretty good

    That doom and gloom should knock some of that positivity out of those farmers and get them back closer to reality.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭darragh_haven


    Moi, opinionated ????

    I've only ever hit the ignore button once on Boards when someone accused me of lying. You're coming close with such an assertion :)

    Thats a very stong opinion you have there frazzledhome.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭keep going


    Reference a thread I put a few months back, would there be a bigger crowd at a negative farmer conference.didnt hear anything about mm but whos in the line up for iga, wanted to go but behind sheduale with parlour


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,704 ✭✭✭dar31


    heading down along in the morning, early start to to make it down
    looks promising
    the positive farmers is only middling, only a few good speakers and topics sprinkled over the two days, will decide on that next week


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Judging by the talk on Twitter It was a very interesting day.
    Think I'll make sure to attend next yr.
    The summer tour was very good


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭quader


    Judging by the talk on Twitter It was a very interesting day.
    Think I'll make sure to attend next yr.
    The summer tour was very good

    Was very good especially John Roche but was very disappointed with matt Ryan


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    quader wrote: »
    Was very good especially John Roche but was very disappointed with matt Ryan

    Why?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,585 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    quader wrote: »
    Was very good especially John Roche but was very disappointed with matt Ryan

    Read a lot of reports on Twitter and have to say thought some my mats stuff was a bit far out alright,buying extra calves,rearing neighbours calves,selling feb calvers ,finishing first rotation before late March and buffer feeding through April.no account of extra workload rearing calves or if we get a really crisp spring etc.then again he ain't milking cows,mat in fairness is very knowledgeable man


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Read a lot of reports on Twitter and have to say thought some my mats stuff was a bit far out alright,buying extra calves,rearing neighbours calves,selling feb calvers ,finishing first rotation before late March and buffer feeding through April.no account of extra workload rearing calves or if we get a really crisp spring etc.then again he ain't milking cows,mat in fairness is very knowledgeable man

    MJ, Tbf he was listing this as one of the ways to use milk. He on two occasions stressed how it usually ends in more hardship than its worth.

    His paper was middling and his delivery very poor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭quader


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Read a lot of reports on Twitter and have to say thought some my mats stuff was a bit far out alright,buying extra calves,rearing neighbours calves,selling feb calvers ,finishing first rotation before late March and buffer feeding through April.no account of extra workload rearing calves or if we get a really crisp spring etc.then again he ain't milking cows,mat in fairness is very knowledgeable man
    saying to go once a day milking and increase milk yield just no way coherent and he was very hard to hear and understand and when he was questioned he was sruging it off by saying he just wanted to get us thinking


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭Deepsouthwest


    Good conference alright, well done to the IGA. All competent speakers, especially the two farmers, well spoken guys that appeared to be familiar with speaking into a mic, it didn't knock a stir out of them. Thought Matt Ryan came across as a pompous waffler, but in his defence, I spoke to a few guys about him after, and he's supposed to be v good one on one, but poor in front of a crowd.
    The best speaker was def John Roche, some real take home messages about expansion and the pitfalls that go with it, and the facts/slides to back it up. Favourite quote of the day was in response to feeding meal in a grass deficit situation, "Feed the wedge, not the cow."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Good conference alright, well done to the IGA. All competent speakers, especially the two farmers, well spoken guys that appeared to be familiar with speaking into a mic, it didn't knock a stir out of them. Thought Matt Ryan came across as a pompous waffler, but in his defence, I spoke to a few guys about him after, and he's supposed to be v good one on one, but poor in front of a crowd.
    The best speaker was def John Roche, some real take home messages about expansion and the pitfalls that go with it, and the facts/slides to back it up. Favourite quote of the day was in response to feeding meal in a grass deficit situation, "Feed the wedge, not the cow."

    Was Michael for an on speaker?
    Very good beef farmer. Will be a good dairy farmer too


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    Judging by the talk on Twitter It was a very interesting day.
    Think I'll make sure to attend next yr.
    The summer tour was very good

    Reason for all tweeting was because it was a middling morning.

    Clover trial was first up and good but only first yr too early to be conclusive.

    Good paper from new entrant about measuring

    Matt Ryan next poor

    Joe lennord next middling same old same old. Good point about feeding calves OAD from birth. Aims for 40 heifers per 100 cows weaned

    Paper on Collaborative farming and the land mobility initiave was really interesting. Good project and paying dividends with older farmers in particular liking the idea.

    John Roache was excellent as usual. Main point was to keep simple and done substitute grass. As more meal is put into system profit falls in every production system. He also made the point that the farmer is the key not the system

    On the whole a bit of a curates egg, good in spots. If Roach and land mobility wasn't in afternoon I'd have left for home at lunchtime.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,585 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    MJ, Tbf he was listing this as one of the ways to use milk. He on two occasions stressed how it usually ends in more hardship than its worth.

    His paper was middling and his delivery very poor.

    Been at a few walks and smaller events he presented through the years and always thought highly of him.unfourtnately couldn't make the event and only relying on what I read here and twitter .sounded like a very good day.did any of ye quiz mat as to when that son of his will be donning the red of Munster and green of Ireland again!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    mahoney_j wrote: »
    Been at a few walks and smaller events he presented through the years and always thought highly of him.unfourtnately couldn't make the event and only relying on what I read here and twitter .sounded like a very good day.did any of ye quiz mat as to when that son of his will be donning the red of Munster and green of Ireland again!

    Frankly he's not at home in that forum, put him in a paddock with a group of farmers and he really shines


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Not everyone is good at speaking too crowds.
    Like Joe Patton good in a conference but even better in a field talking to farmers
    Have never met matt ryan so can't pass judgement


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,704 ✭✭✭dar31


    Thought this was good, might do one up, less the heads, and frame it for the kids.

    By the way grass measuring is kids stuff,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭Deepsouthwest


    Was Michael for an on speaker?
    Very good beef farmer. Will be a good dairy farmer too

    Yes Michael Doran was the first farmer to speak, seems to know his stuff alright, and mad about his grass budgeting. Grass budgeting was definitely the message they wanted everyone to take home


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 249 ✭✭Coonagh


    Not everyone is good at speaking too crowds.
    Like Joe Patton good in a conference but even better in a field talking to farmers
    Have never met matt ryan so can't pass judgement

    Joe Patton is absolutely top class I have a lot of time for him. Rang him a few times to bounce ideas off of him and he was very generous with his time


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Coonagh wrote: »
    Joe Patton is absolutely top class I have a lot of time for him. Rang him a few times to bounce ideas off of him and he was very generous with his time

    Yeah a brilliant man now to be fair some say he's not great in a crowd but out in a field is where he's really at home.
    I thought he was very good a winter milk conference. Learned a lot off him that day


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