2000 Gallon Slurry Tanker

kun aguero

Hi

We are looking to upgrade our 1100gal major tanker. Its in good nick but its just too small. we have 3 tanks (55' x 11'6" x 8' deep) and a couple of our silage fields are 2 miles away by road. The small tyres on it dont do the land any favours either.

We have a 6210 JD (about 95/100hp) and it serves our small dairy farm well.

We were debating at home over the different brands/sizes and major seem fairly decent and we got a good quote off them for a trade.

A 1700gal recessed tanker (1620gal after recess) on 28.1 wheels would be a good improvement.
But still think that we could pull a 2000gal tanker (1920gal after recess) on 28.1 wheels and this would save time expecially for the long haul.

Its also another 1000-1500euro for a set of 30.5 tyres but not sure whether or not its worth it.

What are yer experiences? Would the tractor pull the 2000gal?
The land is wet enough where we are with the odd hill but nothing crazy either.
Wouldn't like to make a mistake on such a thing as its a big investment.

simx

kun aguero wrote: »

Hi

We are looking to upgrade our 1100gal major tanker. Its in good nick but its just too small. we have 3 tanks (55' x 11'6" x 8' deep) and a couple of our silage fields are 2 miles away by road. The small tyres on it dont do the land any favours either.

We have a 6210 JD (about 95/100hp) and it serves our small dairy farm well.

We were debating at home over the different brands/sizes and major seem fairly decent and we got a good quote off them for a trade.

A 1700gal recessed tanker (1620gal after recess) on 28.1 wheels would be a good improvement.
But still think that we could pull a 2000gal tanker (1920gal after recess) on 28.1 wheels and this would save time expecially for the long haul.

Its also another 1000-1500euro for a set of 30.5 tyres but not sure whether or not its worth it.

What are yer experiences? Would the tractor pull the 2000gal?
The land is wet enough where we are with the odd hill but nothing crazy either.
Wouldn't like to make a mistake on such a thing as its a big investment.

have a 6210 myself and if i was going for a new tank (maybe someday) id go 2000 gallon anyway, so long as you wont be travelling any serious hills that you could run away on i couldnt see an issue

Timmaay

Use to empty our 80kgls tank with a 1100gls tanker... Well mostly my dad, but started getting a contractor whole time then, I priced up a 2nd hand 160gls tanker last yr, was only getting a grand trading in for my own, and would have had to put 4k towards it, the sums just didn't add up, my contractor now has a 3500 gls tanker, tank empty in no time now and alot less hassle and sh1t (literally ) for me to deal with ha. Make sure ya do up your sums before ya put in the money to the new tanker is all I'm saying!

6270red

Bought an Abbey 2250 last year pulling it with a 5455 Massey 100hp no problem even do a long draw of 4 miles up a hill with full load no probs.

Had a 1350 before and found it harder to pull then the 2250 must be the big wheels I suppose.
Sorry I didn't buy it years ago seems to be more slurry to spread in a smaller window every year.

Went down the contractor route for a few years but I found that they always got stuck in the spring and can't come to spread on the silage ground in the summer as they are busy at silage.

Fermec2

Wev a 6210 JD Pulling a Major 1900gl LPG Tanker on 28 wheels., It Pulls it away grand, but our Farm is Level & we dont have any road either. We went from a 1300 gl Abbey. If you dont have Weights on front you will Find her a Bit light. The Big Wheels Make a Huge Difference tho , especially taking off from a stand still,. Away easier on the Clutch. Just dont be too Brave as you will get caught out , the Weight has to be Transferred somewhere, & i think alot of Weight is put on the Back end of the Tractor. Remmember every 200 gallons of Slurry is equal to 1 tonne. One thing is for sure you will see the Tank drop alot faster especially if the draw is short, & Time seems to be very Precious on farms now a Days. If your Land is Heavy Maybe a 1600gl With Receassed Wheels might be a Better option. The Best of Luck with whatever you decide to Purchase anyway.

kun aguero

thanks for all the input and information it really helps.

Looking at a 1750g major second hand with 28 wheels atm. think this will be somewhere in the region of 1650g or more with the recessed wheels.

If any 1900g/2000g majors or 2000g hi spec tankers cone to my attention in the meanwhile i would definitely have a look. Problem is finding a good second hand one in this size.

Do ye find that the extras like hydraulic change over are any help? dont see it on too many of the majors iv seen. i know a lot of contractors seem to have it though on their tankers.

Ltrvale

kun aguero wrote: »

Do ye find that the extras like hydraulic change over are any help? dont see it on too many of the majors iv seen. i know a lot of contractors seem to have it though on their tankers.

not really worth unless you have auto fill, as you have to get down to put on the pipe anyway

Markcheese

I know the bigger tyres make it easier to tow - but do different hitches make much difference - a farmer I did a bit of work with had a small 2 wheel drive Massey , and it could take some weight on the pick up hitch , the hook locked in place right under the axle keeping the tractor stable with weight on -

Greengrass1

2wd 390
2000g abbey not a bother. .could spread all day with it

eric prydz

Greengrass1 wrote: »

2wd 390
2000g abbey not a bother. .could spread all day with it

You must have retrofitted a trailer brake on to the 390?,any ive seen hadn't one fitted

Greengrass1

eric prydz wrote: »

You must have retrofitted a trailer brake on to the 390?,any ive seen hadn't one fitted

Trailer break are ye mad .
Land there is pure flat

eric prydz

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Trailer break are ye mad .
Land there is pure flat

Whats the second hydraulic hose doing in the picture:D
I like to have 10hp/ton for comfort myself.

Greengrass1

eric prydz wrote: »

Whats the second hydraulic hose doing in the picture:D
I like to have 10hp/ton for comfort myself.

Took that picture 3yr ago or more.
Couldnt tell you if tractor was set uo for brakes or not

eric prydz

Greengrass1 wrote: »

Took that picture 3yr ago or more.
Couldnt tell you if tractor was set uo for brakes or not

If the tractor has a male hydraulic fitting on the back of the tractor then it has the trailer brake set up.

Greengrass1

eric prydz wrote: »

If the tractor has a male hydraulic fitting on the back of the tractor then it has the trailer brake set up.

I'd say its the usual trailer brake set up on it.
That tanker would be on newer tractors as well.
Took that in Kildalton

eric prydz

Greengrass1 wrote: »

I'd say its the usual trailer brake set up on it.
That tanker would be on newer tractors as well.
Took that in Kildalton

Oh right I thought that it was your own there

larthehar

I had a 5455 with a 2000gal hi spec on 28.1s.. walked it.. even on hills.. the only issue I had was the tractor marked the ground more than the tank with the only 16.9s.. when I was changing the tractor I got one with 20.8s.. hardly marks the field now..

Reggie.

eric prydz wrote: »

You must have retrofitted a trailer brake on to the 390?,any ive seen hadn't one fitted

My 398 has it. It was an optional extra I believe

9935452

kun aguero wrote: »

Hi

We are looking to upgrade our 1100gal major tanker. Its in good nick but its just too small. we have 3 tanks (55' x 11'6" x 8' deep) and a couple of our silage fields are 2 miles away by road. The small tyres on it dont do the land any favours either.

We have a 6210 JD (about 95/100hp) and it serves our small dairy farm well.

We were debating at home over the different brands/sizes and major seem fairly decent and we got a good quote off them for a trade.

A 1700gal recessed tanker (1620gal after recess) on 28.1 wheels would be a good improvement.
But still think that we could pull a 2000gal tanker (1920gal after recess) on 28.1 wheels and this would save time expecially for the long haul.

Its also another 1000-1500euro for a set of 30.5 tyres but not sure whether or not its worth it.

What are yer experiences? Would the tractor pull the 2000gal?
The land is wet enough where we are with the odd hill but nothing crazy either.
Wouldn't like to make a mistake on such a thing as its a big investment.

Everyone is going to tell you yes no bother , id be inclined to agree as long as there are no hills in the fields or on the road. Long draws can get extremely long when you are crawling up hills on the road with lines of traffic behind you. Any gain for size could be lost for speed. and time
The same with hills in the field, you could be in trouble there if your ground is hilly. That said on level ground you don't need much horse power. I had a man telling me that his 35x had no problem pulling a 1000gallon tank in the level
As regards wet ground , you should be ok. The 2000 g tank on recessed tractor wheels will float and roll very well. Stay away from Russian wheels.
Also you will spread the wet field cleverly, as in you never head into a wet spot with a full load, finish the load in the wet spot or spread into it.
That said if you were to go into a wet spot with your tank and get buried , you would have a good chance of doing the same with the 2k tank .
Best advice is borrow a 2k g tank with recessed wheels and see how you get on. you don't want to buy a tank you are unhappy with after

Pat the lad

Best advice is borrow a 2k g tank with recessed wheels and see how you get on. you don't want to buy a tank you are unhappy with after[/quote]



Good advise. See can you borrow or hire one for a few days first before spkashing out

eric prydz

9935452 wrote: »

Everyone is going to tell you yes no bother , id be inclined to agree as long as there are no hills in the fields or on the road. Long draws can get extremely long when you are crawling up hills on the road with lines of traffic behind you. Any gain for size could be lost for speed. and time
The same with hills in the field, you could be in trouble there if your ground is hilly. That said on level ground you don't need much horse power. I had a man telling me that his 35x had no problem pulling a 1000gallon tank in the level
As regards wet ground , you should be ok. The 2000 g tank on recessed tractor wheels will float and roll very well. Stay away from Russian wheels.
Also you will spread the wet field cleverly, as in you never head into a wet spot with a full load, finish the load in the wet spot or spread into it.
That said if you were to go into a wet spot with your tank and get buried , you would have a good chance of doing the same with the 2k tank .
Best advice is borrow a 2k g tank with recessed wheels and see how you get on. you don't want to buy a tank you are unhappy with after

Id agree with you alright,its not the pulling that's the problem its the stopping.
I like to have at least 10hp/ton in front of anything im pulling and I reckon a loaded 2000 gallon tanker is at least 12 tons