Mayday Air Crash Investigation - New series!

Stinicker

Just a heads up for Aviation buffs here; a new Series of Mayday - Air Crash Investigation begins on January 5th at 9.00pm on National Geographic Channel HD on Ch. 526 on Sky.

Episode 1 features the M1 Kegworth Air Disaster in 1989

Also quite interesting in that the Manx2 Crash at Cork is listed as part of the series according to Wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mayday_episodes#Season_14_.282014.29

And finally for those also interested Ultimate Airport Dubai Season 2 is also currently airing on Nat Geo also with episode 1, 2 & 3 showing next Saturday January 3rd from 2.00pm, it actually started airing in November but for some reason I missed it and Nat Geo luckily are showing re-runs as they always invariably do.

keith16

Excellent news. It really is a good show based purely around the facts.

And although it does dramatise the events somewhat, it doesn't have the feel of a TV3 / CH4 stlye "expose" nonsense.

cml387

If they're going to dramatise the Manx2 crash I hope they do a better job than they did for the Irish involvement in the Air India crash. Dodgy accents,and an ATC room that looked like a smoke filled snug in a pub.

jasT1981

Brilliant. Love this show. Repeats are not as frequent recently either. Good to have new episodes.

yipeeeee

I seen the kegworth crash before, sure these are new ?

cml387

yipeeeee wrote: »

I seen the kegworth crash before, sure these are new ?

Apparently not on Mayday (I thought so too). Wikipedia says it was featured in a Discovery channel documentary.

ambochaser

just cant wait for this ,

The actual footage is the thing that really interests me , especially seeing all the blue lights and the guys in uniform.
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lord lucan

ambochaser wrote: »

just cant wait for this ,

The actual footage is the thing that really interests me , especially seeing all the blue lights and the guys in uniform.
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Re-reg of hopperdavy, banned.

Wicklowleaid

It was a 'seconds from disaster' episode previously alright lads but never an air crash investigation\mayday one

man98

I've watched my fair share of these and am looking forward to the new series, can I pick it up online I don't have the channel...?

airbuspilot

man98 wrote: »

I've watched my fair share of these and am looking forward to the new series, can I pick it up online I don't have the channel...?

There was a YouTube channel that showed all the last series the day after being shown on TV. YouTube is your best bet.

Davy

man98 wrote: »

I've watched my fair share of these and am looking forward to the new series, can I pick it up online I don't have the channel...?

If anyone you know as UPC, you can watch Nat geo online :> https://www.horizon.tv/en_ie/live-channels/live-channel.html/6651431143

man98

I'll catch it on YouTube maybe thanks for all the replies.

Bebop

great show! I love the technical aspect which is impressive, what I don't like is the Hammy actors with NTSB on the back of their overalls, they all smoke if it is set in the 70's or earlier, if it is a middle east airline everyone has swarthy mustaches, they seem to use the same wreckage which looks like a job lot from one of the US boneyards

smurfjed

The Weather Channel has also made a new series called WHY PLANES CRASH. I haven't watched it yet, but hope to watch the DVD in the next couple of days and see how it compares to Mayday.

PukkaStukka

Bebop wrote: »

....what I don't like is the Hammy actors with NTSB on the back of their overalls, they all smoke if it is set in the 70's or earlier, if it is a middle east airline everyone has swarthy mustaches, they seem to use the same wreckage which looks like a job lot from one of the US boneyards

I remember their episode about the dreadful Air Indian accident. The scene of Shannon ATC were a few guys drinking tea and smoking. Obviously the producers like to tune the characters to suit what they believe the local stereotype to be!

Oscar Bravo

bump. tonight 9pm . Nat Geo.

VG31

The episode "3rd Time Unlucky" on the Manx2 crash in Cork is on at 21:00 tonight (Mon 9 Feb)

kub

As in Monday night everyone.

Cork boy 55

Anyone see the episode last week on varig Air flight 254 in brazil
some massive initial screw up by crew although pretty good crash landing , although I thought the people that changed flightplan
from 3 to 4 digits should have got more blame.

They basically went west instead of north got lost and ran out of fuel, flew into setting sun, even the passengers knew it was going wrong way and told air hostess
who said nothing.

While First Officer Zille was making an external inspection of the aircraft, Captain Garcez consulted the flight plan for the magnetic heading to Belém, the flight plan read 0270. Garcez interpreted this as 270 degrees, but the intended meaning was 027.0 degrees (Varig's flight plan notation did not explicitly specify the position for the decimal point, which was implicitly located to the left of the rightmost digit). That confusion was the primary cause for the disaster, along with other minor errors. The captain therefore set the left-side Horizontal Situation Indicator (HSI) to 270 degrees, i.e. a due west course. This heading was inconsistent with flying from Marabá to Belém.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varig_Flight_254

Cork boy 55

The team which investigated the Cork Airport plane crash has declined to co-operate with the makers of a major documentary on the disaster, due to air tonight, out of respect for the survivors and victims’ families.

The Department of Transport’s Air Accident Investigation Unit (AAIU) said it felt it was “not appropriate” for its inspectors to feature in, or to assist in the making of National Geographic’s Air Crash Investigation programme focusing on the 2011 crash so soon after the tragedy.

“It is too soon and too sensitive. And our report speaks for itself,” said an AAIU spokesman.

It is understood the documentary makers approached the unit up to two years ago before the coroner’s court process and the various court cases linked to the crash had concluded.

Six people — four passengers and the two pilots — died on February 10, 2011, when a Fairchild SA227-BC Metro III aircraft en route from Belfast to Cork crashed on its third landing attempt in heavy fog at Cork Airport.

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http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/cork-airport-crash-team-did-not-assist-documentary-311420.html

Gringo180

Just watched the episode of the 737 crash in Resolute Bay and one thing is nagging me about the crash. When the pilot unwittingly touched the steering he disengaged the auto pilot, but surely he should of got an alarm telling him he was now in manual control of the plane?

Negative_G

Gringo180 wrote: »

Just watched the episode of the 737 crash in Resolute Bay and one thing is nagging me about the crash. When the pilot unwittingly touched the steering he disengaged the auto pilot, but surely he should of got an alarm telling him he was now in manual control of the plane?

I can see why it would concern you.

I'm not overly familiar with the 737 autopilot and avionics system so I can't comment on that.

However I do know that on other models of aircraft, airline and corporate, that there is some methods of disconnecting the autopilot without causing any aural or visual warning.

In the link below, at around 9 seconds you can hear the autopilot disconnect aural warning sounding in the cockpit.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ASkk9GudWWk

It would make sense to have some form of alarm for every method of autopilot disengagement to reduce the likelihood of something similar happening again in the future.

Gringo180

Negative_G wrote: »

I can see why it would concern you.

I'm not overly familiar with the 737 autopilot and avionics system so I can't comment on that.

However I do know that on other models of aircraft, airline and corporate, that there is some methods of disconnecting the autopilot without causing any aural or visual warning.

In the link below, at around 9 seconds you can hear the autopilot disconnect aural warning sounding in the cockpit.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ASkk9GudWWk

It would make sense to have some form of alarm for every method of autopilot disengagement to reduce the likelihood of something similar happening again in the future.

Just scary that such a small thing like an alarm could of saved that flight. You would think in this day and age that it would be against regulations to have no alert in the cockpit saying the autopilot has been disengaged.

billie1b

Gringo180 wrote: »

Just scary that such a small thing like an alarm could of saved that flight. You would think in this day and age that it would be against regulations to have no alert in the cockpit saying the autopilot has been disengaged.

Same thing happened on an Aeroflot flight I think it was, Captain let his kids into the flight deck and let them pretend to fly the plane, without knowing the son turned the yoke/tiller so far and it put enough pressure on it to disconnect the autopilot controlling the ailerons unknowingly, plane went into a steep enough bank before anyone noticed that it then went into a uncontrolled nose dive, everyone on board died.

martinsvi

Gringo180 wrote: »

Just watched the episode of the 737 crash in Resolute Bay and one thing is nagging me about the crash. When the pilot unwittingly touched the steering he disengaged the auto pilot, but surely he should of got an alarm telling him he was now in manual control of the plane?

that was a boeing 737-2 series, you rarely see them any more. AP disconnect warning sounds/lights were introduced with 737-3 series, as far as I know and today they're a norm on vast majority of airliners flying above western world

BeardySi

martinsvi wrote: »

that was a boeing 737-2 series, you rarely see them any more. AP disconnect warning sounds/lights were introduced with 737-3 series, as far as I know and today they're a norm on vast majority of airliners flying above western world

aaah - that explains it... that was annoying the hell out of me too!

yerwanthere123

Just to give people a heads up, new series begins January 23rd on National Geo at 9pm. They'll commence the new series with the Germanwings crash.