Kindling machine!!

Feckthis

Hi folks I would be interested In buying a kindling machine that can split logs only. They seem to be very expensive. Those anyone here have any experience with them? Thanks here's a link
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sipdR3iAVRc

timfromtang

Greetings,
You'd be welcome to come over to ours and have a look and a chat, we just bought one of those posch machines about a month ago.
I'd be happy to share any info i have and help you out.
We are using ours to process some larch (nurse crop to oak)which we felled during thinning and tending in summer 2013.

tang is a real place about slap bang in the middle of our lovely green island

Sláinte

timfromtang

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TheBody

Great machine. How much do they cost?

timfromtang

around 10 k including the vat
is the cost
takes a LOT of bags o kindlin runnin thru to pay fer it
tim

timfromtang

so far so good it is a good machine, easy to run and does a tidy job on clear wood, our knotty larch runs through alright, and with care produces tidy kindling.
tim

timfromtang

Greetings all,
Has anyone any ideas concerning alternatives to the net bags most kindling is sold in,,,,

It seems a bit of a waste for me and for my customer to be spending the price of a bag made of plastic, and the throwaway nature of the bag also offends.

The kindling we sell we have "grown" ourselves on our farm forest, or it has been grown nearby in a neighbours' farm forest, a lovely "GREEN" product, carbon neutral or indeed perhaps even carbon positive with good management (depending on silvicultural practices, and nutrient and biomass retention).

An alternative "GREEN" packaging method or suggestions concerning same would be most welcome, welcomed not only by me i'd suggest, but also by our customers.

Dream packaging in a perfect world would be useful for the kindling firestarting process also, and could be produced on farm from materials we can grow or already have growing.

tim

TheBody

timfromtang wrote: »

around 10 k including the vat
is the cost
takes a LOT of bags o kindlin runnin thru to pay fer it
tim

Bloody hell!! It's not for personal use so! I could buy a lot of kerosene for €10K.

timfromtang

Yep, sure is dear,,, however as for personal use.................
it is a new machine, and i need to pay for it...........
I'd happily run your material through the machine for hire so to speak,,,,,
not expensive either i'd suggest as it's a high output machine, and with good material youcan flyit making bags of kindlin
send me a private message if you wish to pursue this
tim

TheBody

timfromtang wrote: »

Yep, sure is dear,,, however as for personal use.................
it is a new machine, and i need to pay for it...........
I'd happily run your material through the machine for hire so to speak,,,,,
not expensive either i'd suggest as it's a high output machine, and with good material youcan flyit making bags of kindlin
send me a private message if you wish to pursue this
tim

I'll keep you in mind. I will be thinning my forest in the new year. It's not very big. I'll be keeping it for personal use.

timfromtang

we also have a logosol timberjig for planking should you have any few stems worth the trouble of planking up, we have planked some yew, oak, larch and ash and sycamore from our first thin, small planks but worthwhile nonetheless, from one spectacular larch planted in 2001, we yielded seven planks 3 metres long 7 x 1 inch planks.
The timberjig is slow, and hard work however for a few hundred quid its a great yoke if you have a suitable chainsaw, we have made loads of things from the planks produced, including creels for the trailer we use to deliver firewood.
tim

Feckthis

timfromtang wrote: »

Greetings,
You'd be welcome to come over to ours and have a look and a chat, we just bought one of those posch machines about a month ago.
I'd be happy to share any info i have and help you out.
We are using ours to process some larch (nurse crop to oak)which we felled during thinning and tending in summer 2013.

tang is a real place about slap bang in the middle of our lovely green island

Sláinte

timfromtang

timfromtang, please don't give out personal contact details here.
Use the Private Message function if necessary

-Kovu-

Hi Tim,

Thanks for the offer. may I ask how many customers you are serving too. Or how many bags a week you get rid of.

Reindeer

timfromtang wrote: »

Greetings all,
Has anyone any ideas concerning alternatives to the net bags most kindling is sold in,,,,

It seems a bit of a waste for me and for my customer to be spending the price of a bag made of plastic, and the throwaway nature of the bag also offends.

The kindling we sell we have "grown" ourselves on our farm forest, or it has been grown nearby in a neighbours' farm forest, a lovely "GREEN" product, carbon neutral or indeed perhaps even carbon positive with good management (depending on silvicultural practices, and nutrient and biomass retention).

An alternative "GREEN" packaging method or suggestions concerning same would be most welcome, welcomed not only by me i'd suggest, but also by our customers.

Dream packaging in a perfect world would be useful for the kindling firestarting process also, and could be produced on farmfrom materials we can grow or already have growing.

tim

I use old feed bags made of paper for our kindling. But part of the estate I work is an organic farm, so we have plenty of extra feed bags.
Maybe a kennels near you uses paper bags?

timfromtang

Hi feckthis, yes you may ask, however since we have only just purchased the machine these numbers you seek are still rising. I plan for an output of 12 to 16 pallets per week for the 2015-16 season, i hope i can get enough sales to reach this. hope this helps
As for customers, most are small retailers, and since the volumes they move are so variable the number of customers is really not that relevant.
We are really at the startup phase of our operation, still building stock up, sorting out the sheds etc.
We have bought a polytunnel for final drying and storage of the kindling, but have yet to go and take it down and erect it on our site. see the thread entitled
"Firewood and Kindling Drying Kiln" (can not post link because i am a new user-link inserted by mod.)
for the discussion that helped us reach this decision concerning drying
tim

tim

Cat303

Hi lads.first time on tis.i have a kindling machine that does pallet boards.
Great machine.looking at buyin a fuelwood kindlet machine for round logs
Just starting up this business and need all the advice
Cheers

Cat303

Hi tim
Just wondering what do make of the fuelwood kindling machine and is spruce timber the best to buy for kindling
Cheers

timfromtang

Cat303 wrote: »

Hi tim
Just wondering what do make of the fuelwood kindling machine and is spruce timber the best to buy for kindling
Cheers

I can not offer an opinion on spruce as i have not used it for kindling, although many others do use it

also concerning the fuelwood machine, i have not seen one in operation, nor owned one and have no information to offer there either

apologies but there it is

I can offer however something so perhaps all is not lost,

clear knot free timber makes much tidier nicer kindling with much less waste much more easily, this is true with our posch machine, and possibly common across many varieties of kindling machines.

whilst firewood should be at 20 percent moisture or so for optimum burning, i'd suggest that kindling works better drier 12-16% (as measured with a woodworking moisture meter),

our own kindling machine works best on wetter timber, (likely across all varieties as dryer timber requires more force to split in most species) , so either a kiln or a large very dry space for air drying stock would seem to be necessary

hope this helps
tim

kindling123

Cat303 wrote: »

Hi lads.first time on tis.i have a kindling machine that does pallet boards.
Great machine.looking at buyin a fuelwood kindlet machine for round logs
Just starting up this business and need all the advice
Cheers

hi cat303.what make and type is your kindling machine.thanks