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If I get a tablet with jellybean, will it be good?

  • 26-12-2014 2:32pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭


    Seen online some apps won't work with jellybean. Is this true?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,541 ✭✭✭duridian


    Gits_bone wrote: »
    Seen online some apps won't work with jellybean. Is this true?

    The thing about Jellybean is that there are three different major generations of Android named Jellybean. The oldest version was Android 4.1, then Android 4.2, and last Jellybean was Android 4.3. Then came KitKat Android 4.4, and we are now onto Lollipop Android 5.0.

    You could make a comparison with the iOS system which Apple uses. Logically iOS 7 is older than iOS 8, and so forth. You can probably see also that Jellybean 4.1 is now four generations behind the newest version.

    Now to explain why this matters you must kinda look at things from the point of view of the developers who make apps. Basically when a new version comes along, as well as new features that you can see as an everyday user there are usually some invisible new things going on "under the bonnet" also, which mainly concern the people writing software.
    This is called the application programming interface or API. With a new API there may be newer and better ways of programming things into an app. Or to put it in layman's terms, if a software developer can use a new method to do the same job using 10 lines of code that previously took 50 lines of code, then they will probably go for this new option.

    Now, how this matters is that the end result is older versions of Android or iOS cannot understand software coded using these new more efficient methods, so you will find apps saying the minimum version of Android/iOS required. Over time older systems get dropped and no longer supported as developers adopt the newer ways of coding their apps. Currently most Android apps seem to need 4.0, with older systems like Android Gingerbread 2.3 being gradually dropped. As time passes 4.0, then 4.1 etc will each in turn be dropped by developers.

    The number of apps requiring 4.4 as the minimum is still quite small, but the number needing 4.1 or better is increasing. So if you have just got a tablet that is stuck on Jellybean 4.1 most apps should still be available to you, but the further back the versions you go the sooner this will change.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭Gits_bone


    duridian wrote: »
    The thing about Jellybean is that there are three different major generations of Android named Jellybean. The oldest version was Android 4.1, then Android 4.2, and last Jellybean was Android 4.3. Then came KitKat Android 4.4, and we are now onto Lollipop Android 5.0.

    You could make a comparison with the iOS system which Apple uses. Logically iOS 7 is older than iOS 8, and so forth. You can probably see also that Jellybean 4.1 is now four generations behind the newest version.

    Now to explain why this matters you must kinda look at things from the point of view of the developers who make apps. Basically when a new version comes along, as well as new features that you can see as an everyday user there are usually some invisible new things going on "under the bonnet" also, which mainly concern the people writing software.
    This is called the application programming interface or API. With a new API there may be newer and better ways of programming things into an app. Or to put it in layman's terms, if a software developer can use a new method to do the same job using 10 lines of code that previously took 50 lines of code, then they will probably go for this new option.

    Now, how this matters is that the end result is older versions of Android or iOS cannot understand software coded using these new more efficient methods, so you will find apps saying the minimum version of Android/iOS required. Over time older systems get dropped and no longer supported as developers adopt the newer ways of coding their apps. Currently most Android apps seem to need 4.0, with older systems like Android Gingerbread 2.3 being gradually dropped. As time passes 4.0, then 4.1 etc will each in turn be dropped by developers.

    The number of apps requiring 4.4 as the minimum is still quite small, but the number needing 4.1 or better is increasing. So if you have just got a tablet that is stuck on Jellybean 4.1 most apps should still be available to you, but the further back the versions you go the sooner this will change.

    Thank you very much. I am looking for a tab for web browsing/gambling sites/youtube/downloading music and streaming with chromecast as well as messing around with apps!

    Was looking at this tab, looks good. I want a 10 inch. This has 2bg of ram too and also has an 8mp cam at the back. What would you reckon?

    http://www.littlewoodsireland.ie/lenovo-lenovo-yoga-10-hd-wifi-quad-core-2gb-ram-16gb-hard-drive-wifi-10in-touchscreen-tablet-metal-silver/1384016176.prd


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,541 ✭✭✭duridian


    Gits_bone wrote: »
    Thank you very much. I am looking for a tab for web browsing/gambling sites/youtube/downloading music and streaming with chromecast as well as messing around with apps!

    Was looking at this tab, looks good. I want a 10 inch. This has 2bg of ram too and also has an 8mp cam at the back. What would you reckon?

    http://www.littlewoodsireland.ie/lenovo-lenovo-yoga-10-hd-wifi-quad-core-2gb-ram-16gb-hard-drive-wifi-10in-touchscreen-tablet-metal-silver/1384016176.prd

    It looks okay and the reviews seem to particularly praise it as having good battery life.

    The only thing I am wondering about is whether the Littlewoods site is listing the right name for the tab, because the specs on LW site don't seem to match what other sites have as specs for this tab.

    Littlewoods describe it as having a screen resolution of 1280 x 800 and running Android 4.2. While GSMArena and Amazon describe it as having a FullHD screen with Android 4.3.

    It sounds to me like Littlewoods are describing a mixture of the Lenovo Yoga Tablet 10 HD+ and an older similarly named version called Lenovo Yoga Tablet 10 HD (no plus).
    You would really want to confirm this as the "+" version would be alright at this price, but the older model not a hope at this price.
    Here's a side by side comparison of the specs:
    http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=6166&idPhone2=5836

    Main points.
    The + has Qualcomm chipset instead of a cheaper Mediatek chipset.
    The + has 2GB of RAM, double that of the older model which has only 1GB. (Note this is RAM I am speaking of, not storage space.)
    The + has a Full HD screen, the old model has only a 720p class screen.
    The + has Android 4.3 with promise of 4.4 upgrade, the older model is on Android 4.2 and likely to remain there.
    The + has 8MP camera versus 5MP on the older model.

    Either tab would do all the things you mentioned, but don't pay this kind of price for it if it isn't the +. You'd want to contact LW and make sure of what it is that you are buying before you spend a penny!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭Gits_bone


    duridian wrote: »
    It looks okay and the reviews seem to particularly praise it as having good battery life.

    The only thing I am wondering about is whether the Littlewoods site is listing the right name for the tab, because the specs on LW site don't seem to match what other sites have as specs for this tab.

    Littlewoods describe it as having a screen resolution of 1280 x 800 and running Android 4.2. While GSMArena and Amazon describe it as having a FullHD screen with Android 4.3.

    It sounds to me like Littlewoods are describing a mixture of the Lenovo Yoga Tablet 10 HD+ and an older similarly named version called Lenovo Yoga Tablet 10 HD (no plus).
    You would really want to confirm this as the "+" version would be alright at this price, but the older model not a hope at this price.
    Here's a side by side comparison of the specs:
    http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=6166&idPhone2=5836




    Main points.
    The + has Qualcomm chipset instead of a cheaper Mediatek chipset.
    The + has 2GB of RAM, double that of the older model which has only 1GB. (Note this is RAM I am speaking of, not storage space.)
    The + has a Full HD screen, the old model has only a 720p class screen.
    The + has Android 4.3 with promise of 4.4 upgrade, the older model is on Android 4.2 and likely to remain there.
    The + has 8MP camera versus 5MP on the older model.

    Either tab would do all the things you mentioned, but don't pay this kind of price for it if it isn't the +. You'd want to contact LW and make sure of what it is that you are buying before you spend a penny!

    Thanks so much. I emailed there.

    Also found this! Seems to be the old tab, so I would think the other one would be the new one! :)

    http://www.littlewoodsireland.ie/lenovo-yoga-10-quad-core-processor-1gb-ram-16gb-storage-wi-fi-10-inch-touch-screen-tablet/1326898778.prd?crossSellType=RR_Pzone1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,541 ✭✭✭duridian


    Gits_bone wrote: »
    Thanks so much. I emailed there.

    Also found this! Seems to be the old tab, so I would think the other one would be the new one! :)

    http://www.littlewoodsireland.ie/lenovo-yoga-10-quad-core-processor-1gb-ram-16gb-storage-wi-fi-10-inch-touch-screen-tablet/1326898778.prd?crossSellType=RR_Pzone1

    Yeah, it looks like that one for 219 is the old one, still better to be sure first!
    Good luck with it!


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,345 ✭✭✭Gits_bone


    duridian wrote: »
    Yeah, it looks like that one for 219 is the old one, still better to be sure first!
    Good luck with it!

    Would you say the one advertised is good? Even if it is a hybrid, with the jellybean OS? Thank you for your help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,541 ✭✭✭duridian


    Gits_bone wrote: »
    Would you say the one advertised is good? Even if it is a hybrid, with the jellybean OS? Thank you for your help.

    If the 279 one definitely has a Full HD screen, Qualcomm Snapdragon 400 chipset, 2GB of RAM, 16GB of storage with a slot for a micro SD card and at least Android Jellybean 4.3 then I would say yes, it is a pretty decent tablet. (Full HD is 1920 x 1080 resolution, but most FHD tablets are a slight bit higher on the vertical pixels than a FHD television and are 1920 x 1200)
    It wouldn't be a hugely powerful gaming tablet, but for the things you mentioned I believe the specs would make it nice to use. Having 2GB of RAM really can make things noticeably smoother. The battery life is mentioned as being very good in several reviews I took a quick look at.

    Talk later.


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