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  • 18-12-2014 9:38pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭


    Currently considering moving into Human resources as a career choice.

    Are there jobs out there in this industry for people with no experience ? how does one go about obtaining paid experience in this sector.

    Any advice would be more than welcome, thanks in advance.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 358 ✭✭SPM1959


    Currently considering moving into Human resources as a career choice.

    Are there jobs out there in this industry for people with no experience ? how does one go about obtaining paid experience in this sector.

    Any advice would be more than welcome, thanks in advance.

    I have a friend struggling to get into HR for a couple of years now. He has a Masters, CIPD qualified etc. He got a six month job bridge internship but the experience he gained on that was very limited.

    He's still determined to get into this area but not having much luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭triple nipple


    Wow that's rough, does your friend have much work experience in general ? maybe thats what's holding them back ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 358 ✭✭SPM1959


    No, he doesn't. I think you are right but he is determined to get into this area of work and not looking at any other options. Wrong approach in my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭triple nipple


    I have some decent work experience in general and have a permanent job.

    I should be ok in that regard, just none in hr. I hope ur mate gets there ! seems very hard to break into.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 122 ✭✭MrBobbyZ


    I remember going to a recruitment agency after majoring in Human Resource Management. I was told HR invented the "viscious circle" of needing experience to get a job, no job = no experience = no job.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    MrBobbyZ wrote: »
    I remember going to a recruitment agency after majoring in Human Resource Management. I was told HR invented the "viscious circle" of needing experience to get a job, no job = no experience = no job.

    Logical people would call that circular reasoning. It explains a lot. ;-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭UCDVet


    I'm not trying to discourage; but my sister got a job in HR. She was one of those recruiters you sometimes hear horror stories about. Her boss trained her/expected her to basically lie to clients and potential candidates about the job/about the candidates experience.

    The pay was bad, it was high stress, and the only way to make their quotas was to lie. They'd setup interviews, then try to get the candidates to tell them what questions were asked, so they could give that info to the next candidate so they'd seem like a better fit.

    Anyway, after a year she finally quit as she couldn't handle the dishonesty. Then she struggled to find another HR job. Now she's a waitress - nothing wrong with that - but not why she went to school.

    I hope you have better luck though. I'm sure there are better experiences out there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 334 ✭✭triple nipple


    UCDVet wrote:
    I hope you have better luck though. I'm sure there are better experiences out there.


    god I hope so ! thanks for the reply all the same :-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,943 ✭✭✭smcgiff


    UCDVet wrote: »
    I hope you have better luck though. I'm sure there are better experiences out there.

    HR and Recruitment agencies are completely different jobs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭Tarzana2


    UCDVet wrote: »
    I'm not trying to discourage; but my sister got a job in HR. She was one of those recruiters you sometimes hear horror stories about. Her boss trained her/expected her to basically lie to clients and potential candidates about the job/about the candidates experience.

    The pay was bad, it was high stress, and the only way to make their quotas was to lie. They'd setup interviews, then try to get the candidates to tell them what questions were asked, so they could give that info to the next candidate so they'd seem like a better fit.

    Anyway, after a year she finally quit as she couldn't handle the dishonesty. Then she struggled to find another HR job. Now she's a waitress - nothing wrong with that - but not why she went to school.

    I hope you have better luck though. I'm sure there are better experiences out there.

    This sounds more like she was a recruitment consultant than a HR person.

    Recruitment consultants are basically salespeople.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭Liam McPoyle


    I have a degree in HR and also did the CIPD, worked in recruitment with the hope of using that to bridge my non HR experience.

    It was like banging my head off a brick wall.

    I couldnt even get interviews as I had no HR experience, couldnt get experience as I couldnt get a job, chicken and the egg situation.

    Im now a commercial insurance underwriter!

    :pac:

    A mate of mine did the same degree, went and did a masters, then worked as an intern for 12 months (company his Dad worked for agreed to take him on, it wasnt a job bridge situation). He is now permanent with the same company.

    Tough industry to get into.


  • Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No not particularly - business schools churn out hr grads every year but there just aren't that many jobs in the area.


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