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Flat roof with no fall

  • 14-12-2014 3:38pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 98 ✭✭


    Hi Guys, first of I'm sorry if I have this in the wrong forum. Any way my problem is we our house is made of 3 levels (not as posh as it sounds!!), on the top level we have a balcony type area (Approx 8' x 15'). The house is only about 6 years old but we're having a few issues with the house, any way I needed to lift the decking that was up on the balcony, when I was lifting it the timber was just basically crumbling in my hands due to the fact that its been sitting in 2-3 inches of water as there's no fall on the roof to the outlet.

    Has anyone had an issue like this and if so what needs to be done? do I need to get some one in to resurface it? I really want to get this sorted as I don't want to have to replace rotting decking every couple of years

    I work in construction so would be able to have a bash at most things but if its going to involve hot bitumen then maybe I should leave it to some one else.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,444 ✭✭✭sky6


    If the House is only 6 years old it should be covered by Homebond. check it out with your solicitor or Builder.

    from the picture it looks like it needs to be stripped back and re done with a fall to the outlet. There should also have been a layer of stone chippings covering the Felt to protect it in hot weather.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 789 ✭✭✭650gs


    First off its not felt so no stone chippings, Next off is Homebond is a waste of time you could be chasing them for years, next off if it was built 6 years ago Id say the same goes for the builder, so if it were me I would get in a professional, if its a town house or an apartment maybe the management company


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 98 ✭✭mickysquint


    Cheers for the response guys,
    650gs wrote: »
    First off its not felt so no stone chippings, Next off is Homebond is a waste of time you could be chasing them for years, next off if it was built 6 years ago Id say the same goes for the builder, so if it were me I would get in a professional, if its a town house or an apartment maybe the management company

    Yeah your spot on, Homebond will be a waste of time, I know of 4 houses in this estate that have had problems with the balcony leaking and they have all been fobbed of by Homebond and the management company, and yeah the builders have long gone, up until recently the estate was technically a ghost estate. Its poor workmanship to be honest, typical celtic tiger house, bang them up as quickly as possible.

    I think I will just get a price after christmas and get it done properly.

    Thanks again though.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,464 ✭✭✭Celly Smunt


    I'd say it's the outlet location rather than the fall itself tbh. Seen it many times before where an outlet would be raised 2-3 inches higher than the level of the ground on a wall leading to a gutter and down pipe.

    Where is the outlet located?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 98 ✭✭mickysquint


    I'd say it's the outlet location rather than the fall itself tbh. Seen it many times before where an outlet would be raised 2-3 inches higher than the level of the ground on a wall leading to a gutter and down pipe.

    Where is the outlet located?

    See the picture? See the area at the end that sits a little further out than the rest of the balcony? It's on the near side wall of that area. I'm no expert but I definetly think its a no fall issue, no water sits in the area where the outlet is, it all rolls back to where the table and chairs are.

    I'm also getting a head ache with the outlet itself, very little lead inside it which is leaving the cavity exposed which handily leads down to a bathroom vent below, which leaves the bathroom like an ice box and a damp ceiling around the vent.

    The joys of home ownership!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 147 ✭✭dhog4n


    If there is a fall towards anywhere on the outer wall of the balcony you might be able to put in a new outlet at the low spot. Consent might be necessary ftom the management company though.

    Other than that, I would think screeding or tiling to a fall to the outlet is the way to go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭cosbawn


    Hi Guys, first of I'm sorry if I have this in the wrong forum. Any way my problem is we our house is made of 3 levels (not as posh as it sounds!!), on the top level we have a balcony type area (Approx 8' x 15'). The house is only about 6 years old but we're having a few issues with the house, any way I needed to lift the decking that was up on the balcony, when I was lifting it the timber was just basically crumbling in my hands due to the fact that its been sitting in 2-3 inches of water as there's no fall on the roof to the outlet.

    Has anyone had an issue like this and if so what needs to be done? do I need to get some one in to resurface it? I really want to get this sorted as I don't want to have to replace rotting decking every couple of years

    I work in construction so would be able to have a bash at most things but if its going to involve hot bitumen then maybe I should leave it to some one else.

    Hi, I am just wondering what you did in the end to remedy the problem. As I'm pretty sure I live in the same estate. I have issues with a slight leak / seepage at the water outlet. And the bathroom is also freezing!! Also water pools on the balcony too. I am hoping to get something done with it soon € providing. Did you do it yourself or get someone else and were you happy with outcome. Many thanks Cosbawn


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭slapper999


    Cosbawn, you need to get tapered cricket boards to divert the water to the outlet, a new outlet will sit on top of the board and run down through the existing outlet, and 2 layers of torch on felt, it will solve your problems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 120 ✭✭cosbawn


    slapper999 wrote: »
    Cosbawn, you need to get tapered cricket boards to divert the water to the outlet, a new outlet will sit on top of the board and run down through the existing outlet, and 2 layers of torch on felt, it will solve your problems.

    Many thanks for reply


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