Paul Brennan Transfer

iDave

Anyone know the ins and outs of this? I don't have an issue with people transferring clubs and playing for other counties if the reasons are legitimate but from reading other forums and FB (I'll admit thats not concrete evidence) he was given a 'promise of a potential All-Ireland at county level'.
Is this true? If so seems like a worrying development where a Div 1 county has approached a player from a Div 4 county and he's moved just for success. Not what GAA is about IMO. The likes of John Galvin and Mattie Forde with all their talent always remained loyal to their clubs/counties despite not having a chance of an All Ireland.
Shane Ward the Leitrim manager has already made the Sean Johnson comparison and said 'it could set a new precedent for just changing counties'

liam7831

klairondavis

iDave wrote: »

The likes of John Galvin and Mattie Forde with all their talent always remained loyal to their clubs/counties despite not having a chance of an All Ireland.

John Galvin is playing with Cratloe now isn't he?

This guy might have a problem if he has to line out in the club championship before becoming eligible to play for Donegal under the aforementioned "Johnston Rule."

Donegal clubs will be twiddling their thumbs again until the county team is finished for the year. Do Bundoran play in the county hurling championship?!

freddiek

Donegal don't need to poach players given their large panel strength.

and Leitrim certainly aren't in a position to lose any from the meagre bunch of so-called 'top players' they might have in that county.

The authorities should have stopped this from going ahead as it just looks like glory-hunting.

Leitrim lost a few of their top players in the past when they transferred to Dublin.

CrabRevolution

Maybe I'm just not concentrating on Leitrim's games, but I'd never even heard of this player before I read about this transfer. Generally you've heard of the stand out players in the weak counties (Paul Barden, Matty Forde, John Galvin, Emlyn Mulligan, Brendan Murphy, Paddy Keenan, Declan Browne etc.).

What makes him, or anyone think he'll actually get a spot on a Donegal team that is currently going through their most successful period in history? The current Donegal panel has numerous All Stars, a recent All Ireland title, countless Ulster senior titles, and yet to come in are a bunch of minors who reached the AI final this year.

I've a feeling its just the Bundoran club that wanted him, and to the convince him they started promising him county appearances and All Ireland titles.

bruschi

freddiek wrote: »

Donegal don't need to poach players given their large panel strength.

and Leitrim certainly aren't in a position to lose any from the meagre bunch of so-called 'top players' they might have in that county.

The authorities should have stopped this from going ahead as it just looks like glory-hunting.

Leitrim lost a few of their top players in the past when they transferred to Dublin.

A few of them? who were they?

Crash Bang Wall

bruschi wrote: »

A few of them? who were they?

D'arcy was one as far as I know....cant think of any others off the top of my head

chubba1984

Darcy was a Dubliner who played for Leitrim as his parents were from there.

Starie1975

If he was from south Leitrim and needed to transfer Malin head then I might sympathise with him. However he's transferring 4km up the road from Melvin Geals to Bundoran. I’m total against this kind for transfer in the GAA and I hope it’s stopped. #oneclubonelife

clunked

Bad form. If he had to transfer for work or family reasons nobody could object. If he thinks otherwise, then he is playing the wrong sport.

Highflyer13

clunked wrote: »

Bad form. If he had to transfer for work or family reasons nobody could object. If he thinks otherwise, then he is playing the wrong sport.

I don't know, if he is promised county football with All-Ireland contenders then I don't see why not. I don't understand this parochial bolloxology. A cousin of mine moved from a junior club team to a senior club team a few miles down the road with the promise of county football and made it. Saying that he took a few punches along the way over it and more or less got outcast in the village.

GAA folk can be very closed minded at times. I play senior football and to be honest it wouldn't bother me in the slightest if one of the lads left for another club. Its only a game at the end of the day and some take it far too serious.

Browney7

klairondavis wrote: »

John Galvin is playing with Cratloe now isn't he?

This guy might have a problem if he has to line out in the club championship before becoming eligible to play for Donegal under the aforementioned "Johnston Rule."

Donegal clubs will be twiddling their thumbs again until the county team is finished for the year. Do Bundoran play in the county hurling championship?!

Galvin lives and plays in Cratloe but will continue to play for Limerick as long as he can

Starie1975

Highflyer13 wrote: »

I don't know, if he is promised county football with All-Ireland contenders then I don't see why not. I don't understand this parochial bolloxology. A cousin of mine moved from a junior club team to a senior club team a few miles down the road with the promise of county football and made it. Saying that he took a few punches along the way over it and more or less got outcast in the village.

GAA folk can be very closed minded at times. I play senior football and to be honest it wouldn't bother me in the slightest if one of the lads left for another club. Its only a game at the end of the day and some take it far too serious.

The 'parochial bolloxology' is the one of the main ethos of the GAA. Rules are here to protect the GAA and the members. Clubs will cease to exist if players are transferring out and joining more successful clubs. More counties should look into the Kerry/Cork model of group teams. How many All Irelands have they won again?

mickmackey1

Highflyer13 wrote: »

I play senior football and to be honest it wouldn't bother me in the slightest if one of the lads left for another club. Its only a game at the end of the day and some take it far too serious.

That's why you never made it to the top I'm afraid :pac:

Gael85

Crash Bang Wall wrote: »

D'arcy was one as far as I know....cant think of any others off the top of my head

Declan Darcy brother Ken and Jason Ward. The Darcys and Ward were born in Dublin.

nice_guy80

Starie1975 wrote: »

The 'parochial bolloxology' is the one of the main ethos of the GAA. Rules are here to protect the GAA and the members. Clubs will cease to exist if players are transferring out and joining more successful clubs. More counties should look into the Kerry/Cork model of group teams. How many All Irelands have they won again?

Cork have not won enough, based on their population and number of GAA clubs

freddiek

Gael85 wrote: »

Declan Darcy brother Ken and Jason Ward. The Darcys and Ward were born in Dublin.

sure weren't half the country, for Gods sake ?!

point is they were playing for the parents county and were very popular but as soon as the Dubs came knocking they hopped it, leaving poor auld Leitrim in the lurch.

the gas thing is that Darcy ended up having an extremely mediocre career with the Dubs, may have won 1 leinster medal if he was lucky.

Shows how strapped for decent players the Dubs were at the time, with a lot of the '95 team heading towards retirement they had to poach off the smallest county in Ireland.

bruschi

freddiek wrote: »

sure weren't half the country, for Gods sake ?!

point is they were playing for the parents county and were very popular but as soon as the Dubs came knocking they hopped it, leaving poor auld Leitrim in the lurch.

the gas thing is that Darcy ended up having an extremely mediocre career with the Dubs, may have won 1 leinster medal if he was lucky.

Shows how strapped for decent players the Dubs were at the time, with a lot of the '95 team heading towards retirement they had to poach off the smallest county in Ireland.

What top Leitrim players transferred to Dublin. You said there was a few of them.

Do you think someone born and living in Dublin shouldn't be allowed transfer to Dublin?

CrabRevolution

bruschi wrote: »

What top Leitrim players transferred to Dublin. You said there was a few of them.

Do you think someone born and living in Dublin shouldn't be allowed transfer to Dublin?

Reminds me of the myth people love to wrongly state that the All Blacks are only good because they are really mostly made up of Pacific Islanders that they poach from other countries.

This totally ignores the fact that the most recent 34 man New Zealand squad had a grand total of 2 lads from outside NZ, one of whom moved to Auckland when he was 4 years old. The other (Fekitoa) moved when he was 17, before he had ever played for his home country of Tonga.

cilles man

Let's be honest here, a lot of this is about parish pump politics, parish rule is not strong in country wide across the island of Ireland. Dublin county for example has no parish boundaries so why stop this guy progress if he wishes , when this is only an amateur game, it's unfair on the guy if he wishes to further his playing career. Think about it Eamon Fennell has had it done in Dublin , John mc Dermott in meath have all left the clubs that have nursed them from kids to bigger & better things. It's not the end of the world for the clubs their leaving .

galwaylad14

Highflyer13 wrote: »

I don't know, if he is promised county football with All-Ireland contenders then I don't see why not. I don't understand this parochial bolloxology. A cousin of mine moved from a junior club team to a senior club team a few miles down the road with the promise of county football and made it. Saying that he took a few punches along the way over it and more or less got outcast in the village.

GAA folk can be very closed minded at times. I play senior football and to be honest it wouldn't bother me in the slightest if one of the lads left for another club. Its only a game at the end of the day and some take it far too serious.

It's just what makes the gaa so special though, you play for your local club no matter what. Even if you're good enough to make it with the nearby senior club or whatever it should still mean more to you to play alongside your friends with your local club.

I'm from a small club and I'm not a great player at all by any means so it's irrelevant for me but 2 of my closest friends for years would be probably my teams best players and if they played with a bigger club they'd have more chance of winning something at club level and of playing with Galway, but they'd never even dream of it but because playing with their club is what matters most to them.

And aswell as that, these guys are very good friends of mine but if they left us to play with a bigger club I'd find it very hard to look at them the same way, I'm not saying I'd stop talking to them or anything but they'd defintley go down a bit in my estimation and I'd imagine that view would be very common among people like me. Which is ridiculous really in a way because in sports like soccer and rugby it's just seen as the natural progression to try play with better and better teams. But that's just not how it is in the gaa and I think that's part of what makes the gaa so special.

I'm really not pleased with the nature of this transfer to be honest and I doubt his club and county men are either

Aubrey loves Joe

Leitrim had no bother taking Enda Williams from Longford a few years ago

freddiek

Dublin gets almost its entire panel from inter-county transfers.

Hammer Archer

freddiek wrote: »

Dublin gets almost its entire panel from inter-county transfers.

Don't start this crap again!

Orizio

Highflyer13 wrote: »

I don't know, if he is promised county football with All-Ireland contenders then I don't see why not. I don't understand this parochial bolloxology. A cousin of mine moved from a junior club team to a senior club team a few miles down the road with the promise of county football and made it. Saying that he took a few punches along the way over it and more or less got outcast in the village.

GAA folk can be very closed minded at times. I play senior football and to be honest it wouldn't bother me in the slightest if one of the lads left for another club. Its only a game at the end of the day and some take it far too serious.

Some of us don't want the sport to descend into the mercenary fest that is pro-soccer.

bruschi

freddiek wrote: »

Dublin gets almost its entire panel from inter-county transfers.

any chance you'd answer the question I have now asked you twice?

or any chance you'd back up your ridiculous statements with some actual facts?