If I just lived in my house and never cert''d it, what would happen

christopherb

Hi all,
Just a theoretical question as we we're playing with the idea to buy some land and build an eco friendly cob house, then we learn't about the new construction rules re 'self builders', and gave up the idea lol.

So here goes; What if we bought the land got planning permission and built the house ourselves, but then didn't bother to get it certified as we decided we loved the place so much 'we will just live here, and never sell', can that be done?

sydthebeat

thats a sticky subject, you really want to get into it?

edit: i suppose thats a bit flippant.. but heres the answer

(2) A person guilty of an offence by reason of a contravention of section 3 (5) or 8 (6) or of an
offence in contravention of building control regulations which is declared by such regulations to be
an offence to which this subsection applies, shall be liable —
( a ) on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding £800, or, at the discretion of the court,
to imprisonment for a term not exceeding six months, or to both the fine and the
imprisonment and, if the offence is carried on after conviction, such person shall be
guilty of a further offence and shall be liable on summary conviction to a fine not
exceeding £150 per day in respect of each day on which the offence is continued, or
( b ) on conviction on indictment, to a fine not exceeding £10,000 or, at the discretion of the
court, to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years or to both the fine and the
imprisonment.

ive bolded the big one.

as SI9 has no retrospective compliance available, you could in theory be fine €190 for ever single day the dwelling stands....

so assuming a 60 year life of the dwelling, thats only €4,161,000.00

Strolling Bones

Can you drink and drive on the basis that you might not be caught ?

Strolling Bones

You could not borrow money to build on that basis
You could not re mortagae
You could not sell
You might find an insurance company would not pay out in the event of a claim

christopherb

sydthebeat wrote: »

thats a sticky subject, you really want to get into it?

edit: i suppose thats a bit flippant.. but heres the answer



ive bolded the big one.

as SI9 has no retrospective compliance available, you could in theory be fine €190 for ever single day the dwelling stands....

so assuming a 60 year life of the dwelling, thats only €4,161,000.00

That suck's for anybody living in their house that doesn't have a cert lol, I'm sure that's a lot f people oops! Makes me glad I rent atm.

sydthebeat

christopherb wrote: »

That suck's for anybody living in their house that doesn't have a cert lol, I'm sure that's a lot f people oops! Makes me glad I rent atm.

its really applicable to anyone building after 1st march 2014, when the bcars came in.

and its the worst case scenario

fash

sydthebeat wrote: »

and its the worst case scenario

Doesn't apply to those who have not previously been convicted.

sydthebeat

fash wrote: »

Doesn't apply to those who have not previously been convicted.

... but the point i think youve COMPLETELY MISSED is that it is not possible to retrospectively comply with SI9, therefore its pretty much inevitable to be convicted again unless you knock down the house.

so again, its worst case scenario

kkelliher

and at that I think we will call it a day on this thread. The purpose of Boards is not to give advise or discussion on how to avoid regulation/ what happens if you do etc. Seek the advice of professionals if you find yourself in this type of position