Cycling "debate" on TVAM

galwaycyclist

http://www.tv3.ie/ireland_am_video.php?locID=1.65.74&video=87890

Havent watched it myself

daragh_

galwaycyclist wrote: »

http://www.tv3.ie/ireland_am_video.php?locID=1.65.74&video=87890

Havent watched it myself

No need. George Hook doing his curmudgeon for cash thing.

tomasrojo

daragh_ wrote: »

No need. George Hook doing his curmudgeon for cash thing.

Fair and clear-sighted, as usual, George. Two thumbs up. How he keeps returning to this well and coming up with fresh water I'll never know.

Cakewheels

Perhaps reasonable people should just refuse to debate with George Hook?
The presenter was right when he said the discussion was reminding him of Michael Palin. Disappointing carry on from Tv3 as well, they started off by mentioning the increase in 2014 in cyclist fatalities, but what proportion of those were caused by the type of poor cyclist conduct that they are putting so much emphasis on? I'm guessing a much lower proportion of them than the average viewer of their show would assume.

Tenzor07

Hilarious! You have to laugh at Hook. Eamonn Ryan just sat there in stunned silence!

But, did it add anything to the road safety debate? Nope!

daragh_

I know a Cycling Boardsie who turned up for a Radio Interview (unrelated to Cycling) with the lovely George in Full Lycra.

Wish I had been there

fillup

well that was a waste of time...

Hook would argue black is white if he thought it would get him on the air, it's a well practice shtick by now but he does have a point about those gobsh1te, no lights on bike, red light breaking, cycling on paths brigade

As Hooks says they are arrogant to behave like the rules of the road don't apply them. And they just add fuel to the anti-cycling brigade

I recently had a run in with 2 cyclists at the end of the Howth Rd, the bit where it hits Fairview. Their excuse for cycling on the path (outside a kids school) was that they couldn't manoeuvre between the traffic on the road. So their logic was that it was ok to make progress by cycling on a narrow footpath leading past a school gate
I told them to learn how to cycle or leave the bikes at home.

07Lapierre

fillup wrote: »

Hook would argue black is white if he thought it would get him on the air, it's a well practice shtick by now but he does have a point about those gobsh1te, no lights on bike, red light breaking, cycling on paths brigade

As Hooks says they are arrogant to behave like the rules of the road don't apply them. And they just add fuel to the anti-cycling brigade..

I don't think any regular poster on this cycling forum would argue with that...

JMcL

So Hook freely admits to cycling without a light when he was a young lad out on the penny farthing, only stopping when he'd see a guard? Also if he followed the red light breaker last week all the way from from Camden St to Ranelagh, does that also mean that our respected commentator also broke the lights?

When is this eejit due to retire, I can't listen to him on anything these days?

Macy0161

JMcL wrote: »

When is this eejit due to retire, I can't listen to him on anything these days?

I'm sure his "retirement" will be along the lines a Gaybo's...

No one's going to argue about Red Light Jumping, although in my (now several years) commuting, a big majority of cyclists do stop at a big majority of lights. I personally think there's a big difference in the perception of rlj compared to the reality.

fillup

Granted things aint as bad as they once were but there are still plenty of pavement peddlers, stealth bombers and rljs out there.

I work in Dublin City Centre and there's an abundance of them out there. I see them every day both as a cyclist and a pedestrian

And it's not just young hot shot/ courier cyclist types either, there are plenty of older folk who should know better at it too.
Not that I’m having a anti-cyclist rant but those gombeens do us all a disservice.
Give respect – Get respect as they say!!!

lismore7

Saw it this morning and now I know why there are bad cyclists....


According to George, many years ago mothers pushed their prams carrying their baby cyclists through the traffic when crossing the road, without any regard to oncoming vehicles... :eek:

Doh! What an idiot I've been all these years, not to realise this before....
Thanks George for clearing that one up

crosstownk

That's the greatest load of nothing I've ever wasted my time watching.

George Hook is a complete dick. He's just loves embellishing his opinion to the point where most people switch off and think "that guy's a dick".

I dont RLJ but if I saw George Hook at the junction I'd strongly consider it - just to rise his blood pressure (and make me grin)

monument

Wow... Hook has become a parody of a parody of himself.

Seweryn

crosstownk wrote: »

That's the greatest load of nothing I've ever wasted my time watching.

George Hook is a complete dick. He's just loves embellishing his opinion to the point where most people switch off and think "that guy's a dick".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXgmRBX6iU4

ted1

Macy0161 wrote: »

I'm sure his "retirement" will be along the lines a Gaybo's...

No one's going to argue about Red Light Jumping, although in my (now several years) commuting, a big majority of cyclists do stop at a big majority of lights. I personally think there's a big difference in the perception of rlj compared to the reality.

Going in on the N11 every morning I would say 99% of cyclists stop at lights. While I can guarantee that 3 cars will break the lights every time particularly the minor roads joining the N11

laraghrider

ted1 wrote: »

Going in on the N11 every morning I would say 99% of cyclists stop at lights. While I can guarantee that 3 cars will break the lights every time particularly the minor roads joining the N11

I think it depends on the junction. Having never cycled and rarely driven the N11 I've no idea what it's like junction wise. What I can say is my commute down the N81, through tallaght and into the city center there are possibly only 2 junctions where all cyclists stop as we know you'll be dead if you try to jump it. The rest are, I hate to say a free for all and I'd be in the smaller minority of those that stop. I've even been given out to for blocking a rider from going through a red light!