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National Broadband Plan and rural operators

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    #2
    watty
    Registered Users Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    I suspect Comreg doesn't much care what anyone thinks about anything, except perhaps Mobile operators and Spectrum licence Auctions.


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    clohamon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,765 ✭✭✭clohamon


    bealtine wrote: »
    Comreg seems to want to know what rural operators think

    So have issued a "Call for Input on Regulatory Implications" on the plan

    http://www.comreg.ie/_fileupload/publications/ComReg14126.pdf

    They're just at sea. If it hasn't been done by Ofcom already, they don't know where to start. Rural broadband is a new frontier for ComReg.


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    watty
    Registered Users Posts: 32,417 ✭✭✭✭watty


    clohamon wrote: »
    Rural broadband is a new frontier for ComReg.

    Yes, after all the GBS was sabotaged,
    The NBS was only subsidies to a Mobile Phone operator (no Broadband).
    The Rural scheme after NBS was sabotaged.

    ANY real Broadband is a new frontier for an organisation totally focused on the Mobile Phone Industry and how to levy revenue from it.


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    nathan184
    Registered Users Posts: 158 ✭✭nathan184


    Has the minimum speed for the National Broadband Plan been defined yet?

    I am in a blue area on this map but Eircom have told me there is no upgrade planned to our line (currently 5Mbit down). I'm wondering if that means I would be upgraded by the NBP instead of commercial operators?

    This article quotes 30Mbit being the minimum but that was in last November


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    oscarBravo
    Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,791 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    If you're in a blue area, then someone (not necessarily eircom) has told the Department that they plan to offer you at least 30M by the end of next year.


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    clohamon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,765 ✭✭✭clohamon


    nathan184 wrote: »
    Has the minimum speed for the National Broadband Plan been defined yet?

    I am in a blue area on this map but Eircom have told me there is no upgrade planned to our line (currently 5Mbit down). I'm wondering if that means I would be upgraded by the NBP instead of commercial operators?

    This article quotes 30Mbit being the minimum but that was in last November

    Try cross checking your area on the irelandOffline map (tick the VDSL option), there might be some extra information on the eircom upgrade schedule. If you're in a blue area it should be either be currently receiving 30Mb/s (down) or due to be upgraded sometime between now and December 2016.

    It's possible - but unlikely - that the planned upgrade might be by some operator other than eircom.

    You will not be upgraded by the NBP unless the operator (whoever they are) has failed to deliver on the Dec '16 commitment. At what point that call will be made is anybody's guess.

    Contact the department using the 'contact us' tab on the map page and see what happens.


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    nathan184
    Registered Users Posts: 158 ✭✭nathan184


    Thanks guys. I'll try contacting some other operators to see if they have plans.

    The frustrating thing is there is an enabled VDSL cabinet 300m from my house but Eircom say it doesn't serve the houses on my road (the cabinet is right across the main road from us).


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    Grab All Association
    Registered Users Posts: 3,918 ✭✭✭Grab All Association


    What about the following areas promised fibre broadband in 2016 (just before the local elections) Is this still going ahead?

    http://www.tipperarystar.ie/news/79-tipperary-villages-to-get-high-speed-broadband-1-6025635
    http://www.alankelly.ie/blog/2014/04/25/79-rural-communities-in-tipperary-are-to-get-access-to-highquality-broadband-/


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    nathan184
    Registered Users Posts: 158 ✭✭nathan184


    Check this map or contact Eircom. Their boards forum is a decent place to get some kind of answer.

    The map is only an indication. I live in the middle of a blue area but have been told there's no plan to upgrade me above 5Mb


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    rob808
    Registered Users Posts: 2,311 ✭✭✭rob808


    nathan184 wrote: »
    Check this map or contact Eircom. Their boards forum is a decent place to get some kind of answer.

    The map is only an indication. I live in the middle of a blue area but have been told there's no plan to upgrade me above 5Mb
    wow that crazy why that how come you only get 5mb if your in a blue area I'm in a NBP area and I get 4mb we're screwed if they go the wireless route again Fw ok but 4g and LTE are not broadband.


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    fergus1001
    Registered Users Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭fergus1001


    What or when or how is the nbs going to tackle the amber areas ? (The vast majority of the country)


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    clohamon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,765 ✭✭✭clohamon


    fergus1001 wrote: »
    What or when or how is the nbs going to tackle the amber areas ? (The vast majority of the country)

    The NBS is assumed to be provisioned with fibre backhaul, and the preliminary view of DCENR is that it should deliver minimum access speeds of 30Mbs/10Mbs. That is about all we know about the 'what'.

    As for the 'when', it is due to go to tender late 2015/early 2016. First deployments are due to take place in 2016. It is scheduled to take 5 years.

    The 'how' is unresolved in the following areas: specification, access technologies, ownership, regulation, procurement.

    The department have recently employed four sets of consultants to help them with this task


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