is it legal to have siren on a push bike. The bike will be used for Search and Resuce

podge999

I was just wondering if its legal to have a siren to a push bike. The bike will be used for Search and Resuce (SAR) taskings and missions to search a city or the banks of the river and the siren woundnt be miss used. the bike also has refelectors, white and red lights to the front and back.
Thanks

Little CuChulainn

What would be the point of the siren?

rozeboosje

Luring men to their deaths from a push bike? I do think that that is illegal.

Oh. Wait. Different kind of Siren.

the world wonders

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/1996/en/si/0138.html
28. (1) Every vehicle (other than a pedestrian controlled vehicle) shall be fitted with an audible warning device complying with the provisions of sub-article (2) of this article, capable of giving sufficient warning of the approach or position of the vehicle.


(2) The device referred to in sub-article (1) of this article shall not consist of —


(a) a gong, siren or other strident-toned device except in the case of a vehicle used for fire brigade, ambulance, police or Irish Marine Emergency Service purposes, or for the purposes of delivering or collecting human blood or human blood products, or


(b) a bell, except in the case of —


(i) a vehicle used for fire brigade, ambulance or police purposes, or


(ii) a bicycle —


I. the engine of which does not exceed 50 cubic centimetres in cylinder capacity as calculated in accordance with article 27 of the Road Vehicles (Registration and Licensing) (Amendment) Regulations, 1992 ( S.I. No. 385 of 1992 ) and


II. which is incapable of exceeding 24 miles per hour on a dry level road under normal atmospheric conditions.


(3) Save as provided in sub-articles (1) and (2) of this article, a vehicle shall not be equipped with a gong, siren, or other strident toned device, or with a bell.


(4) For the purposes of this article —


(a) a vehicle used for fire brigade purposes shall include a vehicle being used by a senior fire officer in the performance of his duty as such officer;


(b) 'senior fire officer' means a fire officer not below the grade of Assistant Fire Officer (Prevention) but including the grades of Second Officer and Third Officer;


(c) a vehicle used for Irish Marine Emergency Service purposes means—


(i) a trailer used by a volunteer or a senior manager in the Irish Marine Emergency Service in the performance of its marine emergency rescue function, or


(ii) a mechanically propelled vehicle used by a senior manager in the Irish Marine Emergency Service in the performance of its marine emergency rescue function;


(d) 'senior manager in the Irish Marine Emergency Service' means an official of the Irish Marine Emergency Service not below the grade of Divisional Officer.".

So sirens seem to be OK for bikes on the same basis as they are for cars i.e. it depends on whether you're in one of the organizations mentioned above.

Also it seems I am not allowed fit a gong to my bicycle

voter1983

Who'll be tasking it?

kilp10

podge999 wrote: »

I was just wondering if its legal to have a siren to a push bike. The bike will be used for Search and Resuce (SAR) taskings and missions to search a city or the banks of the river and the siren woundnt be miss used. the bike also has refelectors, white and red lights to the front and back.
Thanks

Is this a serious question..?? How fast do you expect to be going that you think you need a siren on a bicycle..?! And if you're involved in Search & Rescue and missing persons search, do you not think low key is better than announcing your presence to everyone? Any group that feels they need to announce themselves on a search is one to avoid in my book...whatever about the legalities, think carefully about the image you are trying to portray before doing it or you could end up being viewed quite negatively by many of the other voluntaries.

This wouldn't happen to be in Cork by any chance would it...?

Chickentown

A siren on a bike, come on now...

MarkAnthony

Chickentown wrote: »

A siren on a bike, come on now...

Head on over to the motors forum, I think most would see it as an excellent idea!

goz83

MarkAnthony wrote: »

Head on over to the motors forum, I think most would see it as an excellent idea!

Not unless the op was also fitting a motor to the PUSH BIKE

NUTLEY BOY

Chickentown wrote: »

A siren on a bike, come on now...

Yes. London. Cycle first responders. See this NHS link : http://www.londonambulance.nhs.uk/calling_999/who_will_treat_you/single_responder/cycle_responder.aspx

Zambia

Would a bell not do?

NUTLEY BOY

Zambia wrote: »

Would a bell not do?

Probably not, given the number of pedestrians who have their ears plugged in as they wander along !!

conorh91

the world wonders wrote: »

Also it seems I am not allowed fit a gong to my bicycle

Unfortunately the Act doesn't define "gong". I wonder what the story is with cymbals and related percussion instruments. If in doubt, go for a samba whistle.

Zambia

NUTLEY BOY wrote: »

Probably not, given the number of pedestrians who have their ears plugged in as they wander along !!

Depends on the size of the bell.