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Detailing on new vehicle to be delivered

  • 04-12-2014 5:51pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 819 ✭✭✭


    What are peoples thoughts on this. I'm getting my new motor in january and I've heard it's customary for a dealer to provide it with a pre clean. Should I tell them to leave it and have it done professionally by a dedicated business? Does it matter that much on a new car?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,124 ✭✭✭Mech1


    it's gotta be at least reasonably clean before you leave the dealership. other wise any scratches damage may not be seen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    of course, when they arrive at the dealers they are filthy, from being parked up in sotrage for periods of time and also transportation. they will 100% be washing and polishing it etc before delivery.

    i'd leave the dealer do their thing, they will hand it over looking very well, unless you are very very anal about swirl marks etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭Curran


    Personally I would be requesting it remained untouched. They wont prep it anywhere near they way it should be....it really is a part of car purchasing that all dealers need to improve on. Washing brand new cars with brushes, sponges, drying them with water blades, etc.
    It wont need a Detailers attention. Pay a few quid buying the right products to do it yourself and to keep it that way. Two buckets, wash mitt, microfibre drying towel, pH neutral shampoo, etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,245 ✭✭✭myshirt


    Don't even let them take off the plastic!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 107 ✭✭Mr Detail


    I have contacts in dealers and you do not want them touching your new car. If they insist, tell them you will watch them wash it and that's all ya want done.

    As for th sealant packages they offer at hundreds of euros, just stay clear. The prep is non existent and it's a complete rip off.
    .
    Personally if I was buying a brand new car I wouldn't let the dealer touch it and I'd be getting it protected myself with something like c quartz.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,626 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Leave strict instructions with them not to was your car.
    A simple peel off the plastic and a blow down with a pressure washer with tfr mix and rinse.
    Under no circumstances to touch the paint with anything.

    These are the instructions I left with my dealers with my last 4 new cars and they were honored.

    Do it properly your self then or bring it to t a trusted dealer to get it done as it should.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,865 ✭✭✭✭MuppetCheck


    Some detailers will travel and do the job for you on site at the dealers. Dealer should be alright with that, but check beforehand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 314 ✭✭Darraghmh91.


    I'd get them to give if a lick which they will anyways cause as they can't give a manky car from new to you yano but ya can still give it a clean or get it done to get a nice shine
    New cars to be many from shippin etc full of dust


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,626 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    I'd get them to give if a lick

    Best of luck to you
    It would get a lick of a big dirty brush.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 314 ✭✭Darraghmh91.


    Sure they can't hand out a dirty dust new car for the own reputation so there gonna clean it
    Just clean it up yourself when you get it that's what I'd do have it shinin then


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,626 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Sure they can't hand out a dirty dust new car for the own reputation so there gonna clean it
    Just clean it up yourself when you get it that's what I'd do have it shinin then


    So.
    You have lovely almost perfect paint on your new car.
    Then you allow some guy with a big dirty sponge or a brush wash your car, resulting in swirls and tiny scratches on your paintwork.

    How are you going to have it shining then?

    All my car when ordered as I said just get the plastic removed and a blow down with the washer.

    Nothing more.

    I take it home and de ironize it etc.
    Before I put my lsp on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,053 ✭✭✭Casati


    vectra wrote: »
    So.
    You have lovely almost perfect paint on your new car.
    Then you allow some guy with a big dirty sponge or a brush wash your car, resulting in swirls and tiny scratches on your paintwork.

    How are you going to have it shining then?

    All my car when ordered as I said just get the plastic removed and a blow down with the washer.

    Nothing more.

    I take it home and de ironize it etc.
    Before I put my lsp on it.


    Hi - Im lucky to be getting a new car in January so will follow the advise on the this thread and ask the dealer not to touch the paint with anything except water.

    Can you enlighten me as to what a 'de ironze' and how I can go about doing this, or where should I got to to get it done? What Isp would you recommend? Im getting a Skoda in a Candy White - flat paint if that makes a difference

    Would you recommend threating the interior - Im going for leather (except the bits that are fake leather) so am open to recommendations on what I should threat it with too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,626 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Casati wrote: »
    Hi - Im lucky to be getting a new car in January so will follow the advise on the this thread and ask the dealer not to touch the paint with anything except water.

    Can you enlighten me as to what a 'de ironze' and how I can go about doing this, or where should I got to to get it done? What Isp would you recommend? Im getting a Skoda in a Candy White - flat paint if that makes a difference

    Would you recommend threating the interior - Im going for leather (except the bits that are fake leather) so am open to recommendations on what I should threat it with too?

    Octavia vRS??
    Candy is not "Flat" paint.
    It is a solid color
    I had Candy white on one of my vRS octys and found it very easy to keep clean.

    De ironize
    http://www.detailingshed.com/17-tar-iron-fallout

    Curran will be along here as he does and can enlighten you which one is best.
    I think the Orchard Autocare Iron Cleanse is good but he will advise better for you
    http://www.detailingshed.com/wheels-tyres/10-orchard-autocare-iron-cleanse.html

    I like Collinite 845 on white
    http://www.detailingshed.com/waxes/98-collinite-845-liquid-insulator-wax.html


    How much kit do you have?
    Do you intend keeping this in pristine condition?

    If so are you looking at getting a foam lance and snow foam?
    2 buckets etc?

    If so then I am sure Curran can do you an excellent startup deal and offer you top class advice.

    but to be honest I am now using Soft 99 products.
    "Fusso" as a base coat which is supposed to give up to 12 months protection and I top that with one or two coats of Fusso "King of Gloss"

    It absolutely give a superb finish.

    I think Mr. Detail on here stock those products.
    http://www.mrdetailireland.com/shop/?category=wax+%26+Sealant
    If "King of Gloss" is not in stock "Authentic" is another favorite from the Soft99 range.


    Interior I would only wipe the leather with a damp cloth and give it an occasional rub of Dr. Leather products.

    Are the cloth inserts in the seats alcantara?

    Just a brush and a hoover for them.
    You can get a spray to seal them when new to protect them from spills ans some staning.

    Again.
    Probably best talk to Curan.
    But no disrespect to his prtoducts. I would got for the 2 Soft99 products for your paintwork as they are so simple to use and do give super results.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,377 ✭✭✭Curran


    Top 3 de-iron products are, in no particular order; Bilt Hamber Korrosol, Wolf's Deironizer & Orchard's Iron Cleanse.
    Simple products to use; all are spray on, allow to dwell for a few minutes and then rinse off. The go on clear and turn purple on contact with contamination....which will be easy to see on your Candy White. Its impossible to know what life the car has had up until delivery (eg: sitting on the docks for weeks) and whether or not it will have a lot or a little contamination, but its safe to say that it will have some, and best to ensure its done before applying a LSP.

    Choosing a LSP has so many factors; colour of paintwork, budget, ease of application, ease of removal, durability in the conditions the car will be used (where you want ultimate shine -vs- durability), etc....that said, on brand new paintwork, anything will look extremely well.

    Somethings that should be strongly considered, to keep the paintwork in tip top shape, for a long time, with relative ease; a good wash mitt, two buckets, pH neutral shampoo & good drying towel.
    Using the two bucket method, with a good wash mitt and shampoo, followed by drying with a microfibre drying towel, will keep swirls at bay and your paintwork will look better for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,053 ✭✭✭Casati


    vectra wrote: »
    Octavia vRS??
    Candy is not "Flat" paint.
    It is a solid color
    I had Candy white on one of my vRS octys and found it very easy to keep clean.

    De ironize
    http://www.detailingshed.com/17-tar-iron-fallout

    Curran will be along here as he does and can enlighten you which one is best.
    I think the Orchard Autocare Iron Cleanse is good but he will advise better for you
    http://www.detailingshed.com/wheels-tyres/10-orchard-autocare-iron-cleanse.html

    I like Collinite 845 on white
    http://www.detailingshed.com/waxes/98-collinite-845-liquid-insulator-wax.html


    How much kit do you have?
    Do you intend keeping this in pristine condition?

    If so are you looking at getting a foam lance and snow foam?
    2 buckets etc?

    If so then I am sure Curran can do you an excellent startup deal and offer you top class advice.

    but to be honest I am now using Soft 99 products.
    "Fusso" as a base coat which is supposed to give up to 12 months protection and I top that with one or two coats of Fusso "King of Gloss"

    It absolutely give a superb finish.

    I think Mr. Detail on here stock those products.
    http://www.mrdetailireland.com/shop/?category=wax+%26+Sealant
    If "King of Gloss" is not in stock "Authentic" is another favorite from the Soft99 range.


    Interior I would only wipe the leather with a damp cloth and give it an occasional rub of Dr. Leather products.

    Are the cloth inserts in the seats alcantara?

    Just a brush and a hoover for them.
    You can get a spray to seal them when new to protect them from spills ans some staning.

    Again.
    Probably best talk to Curan.
    But no disrespect to his prtoducts. I would got for the 2 Soft99 products for your paintwork as they are so simple to use and do give super results.

    Many thanks - I dont have foam lance but think I should invest now, I've always washed the cars with the two bucket process though with decent wash mitt and autoglym shampoo. I dry using a chamois, and notice no mention of these in other posts so I guess I should be using them?

    Im getting a Superb actually, so it comes with full leather interior. What should I use on the alloys? Any advise for the glass? I notice the chrome work on my 4 year old Skoda Im trading in isn't looking great now, any advise to threat it now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,053 ✭✭✭Casati


    Curran wrote: »
    Top 3 de-iron products are, in no particular order; Bilt Hamber Korrosol, Wolf's Deironizer & Orchard's Iron Cleanse.
    Simple products to use; all are spray on, allow to dwell for a few minutes and then rinse off. The go on clear and turn purple on contact with contamination....which will be easy to see on your Candy White. Its impossible to know what life the car has had up until delivery (eg: sitting on the docks for weeks) and whether or not it will have a lot or a little contamination, but its safe to say that it will have some, and best to ensure its done before applying a LSP.

    Choosing a LSP has so many factors; colour of paintwork, budget, ease of application, ease of removal, durability in the conditions the car will be used (where you want ultimate shine -vs- durability), etc....that said, on brand new paintwork, anything will look extremely well.

    Somethings that should be strongly considered, to keep the paintwork in tip top shape, for a long time, with relative ease; a good wash mitt, two buckets, pH neutral shampoo & good drying towel.
    Using the two bucket method, with a good wash mitt and shampoo, followed by drying with a microfibre drying towel, will keep swirls at bay and your paintwork will look better for it.


    i want to keep it looking good - within reason! I intend driving it a fair bit on country roads so durability is probably more important than super shine etc. Also Im probably reluctant to spend a fortune - though I want to keep my investment looking new for as long as possible:) What LSP you recommend?


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