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When will we have to follow USA on writing dates?

  • 04-12-2014 11:04am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭


    I noticed last month when downloading from ROS, the Revenue Commissioners online service, copies of Income Tax returns, that the date printed on the returns was 11/12/2014 or 11/13/2014 for 12th or 13th November.

    Given that this is a government website I am wondering how long it will take for us to be forced to show dates the American way as indicated above rather than our traditional way of putting the day's date before the month's.

    What do you think?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 651 ✭✭✭AboutaWeekAgo


    The 13th month of the year is always my favourite :)


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,840 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,004 ✭✭✭✭Realt Dearg Sec


    The changeover will happen on 12/31/15


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭iDave


    Never I hope. Its such a nonsense way of writing a date.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    I doubt the month/day/year will catch on, it just doesn't make as much sense, and it is far from ubiquitous in the USA.

    US spelling is something that I think will likely have taken over in a century, though, because it does make a bit more sense. We don't pronounce the 'u' in colour, and it is a 'z' sound in criticise.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    Zillah wrote: »
    'z' sound in criticise.

    Would that be a "zed" sound or a "zee" sound?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    Mongarra wrote: »
    I noticed last month when downloading from ROS, the Revenue Commissioners online service, copies of Income Tax returns, that the date printed on the returns was 11/12/2014 or 11/13/2014 for 12th or 13th November.

    Given that this is a government website I am wondering how long it will take for us to be forced to show dates the American way as indicated above rather than our traditional way of putting the day's date before the month's.

    What do you think?
    Well if other trends are to be looked at, never. I'm not seeing any widespread adoption of the imperial measurement system these days, and as for Fahrenheit:

    http://imgur.com/3ZidINK


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 166 ✭✭DoomZ


    Zed's dead


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,188 ✭✭✭DoYouEvenLift


    Why would we ever be forced to follow them?


    united-states-vs-the-rest-of-the-world.jpg


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,768 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    As the Revenue software is likely to be sourced from the US, that is likely the default option and they never bothered to localise the settings.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,503 ✭✭✭Makaveli


    YYYYMMDD for life yo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭Shenshen


    Why should we follow the US way, when practically no other country in the world does? The question should be when will the US stop to annoy, confuse and endanger the rest of the world by insisting on giving dates backwards? Do they need to crash another Mars explorer before that happens?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    If they don;t want me to pay my taxes until the 13th month of the year, I can live with that.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    If they don;t want me to pay my taxes until the 13th month of the year, I can live with that.
    Lousy Smarch weather.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,807 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    Zillah wrote: »
    US spelling is something that I think will likely have taken over in a century, though, because it does make a bit more sense. We don't pronounce the 'u' in colour, and it is a 'z' sound in criticise.

    Why don't they spell 'advise' as 'advize'?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Why don't they spell 'advise' as 'advize'?

    Fruthermore, won't advice and advise be sepnt the same way?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭shruikan2553


    When it comes to american measurement systems they are all stupid. I refuse to acknowledge Fahrenheit at all.

    Thankfully for me they didnt get a chance to **** with electrical measurements.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    They weight temperature in cups don't they?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 560 ✭✭✭Philo Beddoe


    As an I.T. type person I think it's only a matter of time before we replace DD/MM/YYYY and MM/DD/YYYY with YYYY/MM/DD.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,119 ✭✭✭Mongarra


    I would have no objection to YYYY/MM/DD or our current method but the illogical MM/DD/YYYY is, I hope, a non-runner.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,334 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    A large percentage of the world use non-Roman alphabets for writing, yet we still write in the Roman alphabet.

    Considering a far smaller percentage of the world uses the MDY format, I'd be very surprised if we're forced to change.

    AFAIK the US military use DMY so they'd have to change first before it could ever start creeping in here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    A large percentage of the world use non-Roman alphabets for writing, yet we still write in the Roman alphabet.

    Considering a far smaller percentage of the world uses the MDY format, I'd be very surprised if we're forced to change.

    AFAIK the US military use DMY so they'd have to change first before it could ever start creeping in here.
    Think they use DDMMMYY as in 04DEC14, just to make it more confusing!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,453 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    I'm here a year and I still find it confusing. It reflects the way they speak the dates - where we would say 'the 3rd of December', they say 'December 3rd'. There's no indication the rest of the world is about to follow suit though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,599 ✭✭✭sashafierce


    This post has been deleted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    9/11 was a US government inside job to lay the ground work for the rest of the world to get used to the new date system.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭The Diabolical Monocle


    They weight temperature in cups don't they?

    no, thats farts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,824 ✭✭✭Qualitymark


    Zillah wrote: »
    US spelling is something that I think will likely have taken over in a century, though, because it does make a bit more sense. We don't pronounce the 'u' in colour, and it is a 'z' sound in criticise.

    Criticize is correct

    http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/criticize?q=criticise&searchDictCode=all

    All 'ise/ize' words deriving from Greek roots are correctly spelled 'ize'; however, when people stopped learning Ancient Greek in school, 'ize' became the norm for such words in US English and 'ise' in British English spelling.

    As for what spelling we'll be using in 100 years, assuming the human race is surviving and capable of writing at that stage, I'll be betting on Mandarin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 560 ✭✭✭Philo Beddoe


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    It reflects the way they speak the dates - where we would say 'the 3rd of December', they say 'December 3rd'.

    Not all of them.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 22 Have a nice day


    I work in a US multinational and I always use dates as follows 04-Dec-14, 25-Dec-14 etc to avoid confusion.
    We should all do it that way.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,012 ✭✭✭Plazaman


    When I was over a short while back I went into a Liqour Store (an off-licence to us ordinary folk) and had to produce my drivers licence. Been born on the 25th October confused the one behind the counter terribly. Then she says "oh you guys write your dates backwards, why do ye do that?". It came as a surprise to her and two other customers in the queue when I told her that only the US, Canada and Beleize put the month first. She got stroppy and refused to serve me as my ID wasn't a valid form of ID. She also said I made up Beleize as a country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,888 ✭✭✭ozmo


    This post has been deleted.

    The only way that makes sense is the ISO standard.

    Year Month Date Hour Minute Second

    Makes putting things in correct time order much more obvious

    (eg. A folder of photos or folders with dates as part of the name)

    “Roll it back”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,828 ✭✭✭stimpson


    If we're doing ISO 8601 we should at least get it right

    YYYY-MM-DD

    It rocks because alphabeticly sorted is also chronologically sorted.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,548 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Get rid of months and years and just count the days instead. Anything else is pandering to the simpletons who struggle with their 365.25 times tables.

    Scheduling the lunar cycle is unnecessary when you have a big moon in the sky.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,370 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    ozmo wrote: »
    The only way that makes sense is the ISO standard.

    Year Month Date Hour Minute Second

    Makes putting things in correct time order much more obvious

    (eg. A folder of photos or folders with dates as part of the name)

    Depends on context, for the vast majority of cases, the year is irrelevant.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    Did you ever say your phone number to a north american, they cant understand it as i think use 2 numbers at a time and we use a mixture.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,824 ✭✭✭Qualitymark


    Get rid of months and years and just count the days instead. Anything else is pandering to the simpletons who struggle with their 365.25 times tables.

    Scheduling the lunar cycle is unnecessary when you have a big moon in the sky.

    Or return to the Quaker method: First Day, Second Month…

    But how maddening is that Northern Ireland way of calling 2010 Two-Ten?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭marketty


    NATO standard DTG is yer only man

    042015ZDEC2014


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 663 ✭✭✭FairytaleGirl



    But how maddening is that Northern Ireland way of calling 2010 Two-Ten?

    Never heard that!
    Twenty - Ten usually?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,295 ✭✭✭Kalyke


    The changeover will occur on Toosday 13/32/202 preecisely.


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ozmo wrote: »
    The only way that makes sense is the ISO standard.

    Year Month Date Hour Minute Second

    Makes putting things in correct time order much more obvious

    (eg. A folder of photos or folders with dates as part of the name)
    I always store my date related files like that 20141204-(some name).xxx


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  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    As an I.T. type person I think it's only a matter of time before we replace DD/MM/YYYY and MM/DD/YYYY with YYYY/MM/DD.
    No we won't, it's only because most software is initialised with the US ad the starting locale, just change the locale to here, and all is then correct.
    the YYYY/MM/DD format is great for date sorting, doesn't mean that we'll use it outside of data stores.

    Simples.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,750 ✭✭✭fleet_admiral


    Its to be fixed on the 30th of February next


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