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Overhanging eaves /guttering

  • 03-12-2014 11:51am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭


    I am not seeking legal advice but more options

    Neighbours gutter overhangs my property by about foot. He built up to boundary line

    This has been like this since before I moved in and I reckon its in place for about 11.5 years.
    He received planning but I cant view the plans online or see if he had permission from previous owners

    He is objecting to some building work I am planning.

    If my planning is refused I might consider selling

    I want
    1) To know who should I consult about this, Planning department, Solicitor etc
    2) Would informing him legally jeopardise any future sale, as I would


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,554 ✭✭✭Pat Mustard


    He received planning but I cant view the plans online or see if he had permission from previous owners
    You can call in to the planning office and check the planning permissions.
    He is objecting to some building work I am planning.
    If you want to know about planning permission, you may receive general advice if you make an appointment to speak to someone in the planning department. They may be able to advise you in relation to exempt developments, in case your works will fall into that category. Failing that, depending on the scale of the works, you could either get recommendations for an engineer/architect who carries this type of work or you could hire a planner.
    If my planning is refused I might consider selling
    Solicitor.
    Would informing him legally jeopardise any future sale, as I would
    This sentence does not make sense. You might explain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,920 ✭✭✭billy few mates


    Would informing him legally jeopardise any future sale, as I would
    This sentence does not make sense. You might explain.

    I think what he means is, if he were to engage in any legal proceedings with the neighbour he might have to declare this to any potential buyer...


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 10,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭BryanF


    I am not seeking legal advice but more options

    Neighbours gutter overhangs my property by about foot. He built up to boundary line

    This has been like this since before I moved in and I reckon its in place for about 11.5 years.
    He received planning but I cant view the plans online or see if he had permission from previous owners

    He is objecting to some building work I am planning.

    If my planning is refused I might consider selling

    I want
    1) To know who should I consult about this, Planning department, Solicitor etc
    2) Would informing him legally jeopardise any future sale, as I would
    1. first find out the planning number, the grant date & the expiry date for the extension. (it may have been exempt, but obviously overhanging eaves should not have been constructed) armed with that info contact the planning enforcement department. 11.5 years (if the time frame is post 7 years instu from expiry date) will likely mean that no reinforcement proceedings will take place.
    2. I don't understand the second question, but would suggest the best thing to do here is look for an amicable solution to construct your extension.

    reading between the lines, & IMHO you will not get satisfication from planning department (or legal route) as regards the neighbours overhanging eaves. best to employ a good architect and move on.

    btw the time to kick up about the overhanging eaves was when you were purchasing the house


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,342 ✭✭✭seagull


    I'm amazed whoever did the survey and your solicitor didn't comment on the overhanging eaves and advise you to walk away at the start.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Is this your land law homework?

    You need to talk to a solicitor. Possibly the one you used to buy the property.

    You need to consider:
    * Can an eaves be occupied?
    * Can you alter the eaves without their permission?
    * How do they maintain the eaves?
    He received planning but I cant view the plans online
    Ask the council to retrieve the planning file - possible €20-30 fee. There may be a microfiche copy.
    He is objecting to some building work I am planning.
    Objections only work if they have merit.
    1) To know who should I consult about this, Planning department, Solicitor etc
    Both, and architect / town planning consultant.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,049 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Strangely I came across this very problem recently in a property I viewed.
    As I did not purchase I had no cause to seek advice ..... but am interested in the procedure and outcome in this situation because of that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 270 ✭✭RORY O CONNOR


    Ring the council and tell them the extension is unauthorised development but under the planning and development Act 2000 under the 7 year rule they can do nothing. You can always write to him requesting the removal of the gutters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,769 ✭✭✭nuac


    1. An overhang of a foot is a lot for a gutter.

    2. Yes, after seven years of the breach planning enforcement proceedings may not issue.

    3. Have the planning file checked to see if your neighbour is compliant with all ongoing conditions e.g. to use a particular structure as a car garage only. If there is a continuing breach of such a condition the above seven year limitation periond may not apply. If there is such a breach it may be easier to talk to your neighbour

    4. Even if he got planning permission to build out over your property - which is unlikely - the fact that he has pl. permission does not of itself entitle him to trespass on your property.

    5. Talk to your solicitor now, as there are some significant time limits in these matters.


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