Help a pleb

whitepuffin

Hi I have been thinking of building a pc for a while now mainly for gaming. I don't have much experience so I hope someone here can help. My budget is €1200 for the pc alone I have the peripherals. I want to play games at a fairly high quality so it should be more than enough I think. Thanks


1. What is your budget?
€1200

2. What will be the main purpose of the computer?
Gaming mostly
-skyrim
-gta when it comes out
-Total war

3. Do you need a copy of Windows?
No reddit can sort me out

4. Can you use any parts from an old computer?
No

5. Do you need a monitor?
No

6. Do you need any of these peripherals?
No

7. Are you willing to try overclocking?
Not yet

8. How can you pay?
Bank transfer or credit card

9. When are you purchasing?
Asap

Genghiz Cohen

Very rough starting place.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ( @ Amazon UK)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ( @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97P-D3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ( @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ( @ More Computers)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ( @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card ( @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Case: Cooltek Antiphon ATX Mid Tower Case ( @ Amazon UK)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ( @ Amazon UK)
Total:
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-02 20:47 GMT+0000

whitepuffin

Thanks so much for your help , just wondering what the total price of this build would be and I don't have a landline just WiFi so can I connect with this?. Sorry if that's a stupid question

Monotype

You need a wifi card for wifi. They're only about €15.

E.g.,
http://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-TL-WN881ND-300Mbps-Wireless-Express/dp/B006BSPTAQ

However, don't expect great results from gaming on wifi. It's alright if you're just downloading a few bits, but multiplayer that requires low latency is shoddy.

A proper wired connection is best, but if you do get some kind of a proper broadband connection in and don't want to run wires every, then homeplugs are the next best thing.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-TL-PA6030KIT-Powerline-Multiple-Configuration/dp/B00K3FEC4C/

whitepuffin

Ah okay I can't get broadband yet so WiFi will do me for now.

Would this build be better or worse than what genghiz cohen has made up?

CPU: Intel core I5 4690k 3.5 ghz quad core processor. €213

Motherboard: Asus maximus vi hero atx LG1150 motherboard €188

MEMORY: G.skill ripjaws x series 8 gb( 2x4 ) ddrr3 2133 memory x2. €150

STORAGE: Samsung 840 evo 120 GB 2.5" solid state drive. €80

STORAGE: western digital caviar blue 1tb 3.5" 7200rpm internal hard drive. €50

VIDEO CARD: Asus GeForce gtx 970 4gb strix video card. €368

CASE: corsair graphite series 230t black atx mid tower case. €67

POWER SUPPLY: corsair cx 500w 80+ bronze certified seminar modular atx power supply. €61

Total price is €1177

Genghiz Cohen

whitepuffin wrote: »

Ah okay I can't get broadband yet so WiFi will do me for now.

Would this build be better or worse than what genghiz cohen has made up?

CPU: Intel core I5 4690k 3.5 ghz quad core processor

Motherboard: Asus maximus vi hero atx LG1150 motherboard

MEMORY: G.skill ripjaws x series 8 gb( 2x4 ) ddrr3 2133 memory x2

STORAGE: Samsung 840 evo 120 GB 2.5" solid state drive

STORAGE: western digital caviar blue 1tb 3.5" 7200rpm internal hard drive

VIDEO CARD: Asus GeForce gtx 970 4gb strix video card

CASE: corsair graphite series 230t black atx mid tower case

POWER SUPPLY: corsair cx 500w 80+ bronze certified seminar modular atx power supply

Total price is €1158

When you say WiFi, do you mean WiMax or some other similar wireless provider?

whitepuffin

Yeah I'm with Vodafone

Genghiz Cohen

How does the internet get into your house?

whitepuffin

Wireless modem

the_syco

whitepuffin wrote: »

Wireless modem

Homeplug may or may not be needed. It comes down to the following;

Where is the nearest Vodafone aerial?
Is there line of sight between your house and the Vodafone aerial?
Which room of the houses do you get best reception?

If your room has the best view of the aerial, then no homeplug is needed. If you get the best signal at the other end of the house, consider a homeplug, or a very long ethernet cable, to connect your new computer with the current wireless modem.

Also consider the "poor mans wifi" to boost your wireless signal if you do have line of sight, but have a long distance between you and the aerial, or if you'd benefit having the aerial on the roof (and if so, consider a surge protector between it and the computer).

whitepuffin

Poor man's wifi might be an option, thanks for the advice. Does anyone have any opinions on the two builds in this thread. Would you change anything?

SterlingArcher

Hard to say puffin. You never posted prices of your parts.

At a glance I would get the gigabyte gtx 970. In my opinion the best of the bunch.

Wouldn't get that psu. Be quiet 500w.

Have you considered You could get an I7 devils canyon. With a stock speed of 4 GHz. If you get a different mobo and ram.

Case wide I'd get nanoxia deep silence 3.

Ps nothing vastly wrong with either builds just matters of opinion.

whitepuffin

I edited in the prices of each forgot that bit.

What mobo and ram would you suggest if I were to go with the I7 and what's wrong with the psu if you don't mind me asking, still a novice at this

How great a difference would the I7 and 5 be?

whitepuffin

Ok so after a bit of research and a bit over budget what do you think of this?. How much greater would this builds performance be to the others?

CPU: I7 4790k 4.0 ghz quad core processor €310

MOBO: Asus maximus vi hero atx lga1150 €171

MEMORY: corsair vengeance 16 gb ( 2x8 gb ) ddr3 1600 memory €153

STORAGE: samsung 840 evo 120 gb 2.5" solid state drive €80

STORAGE: western digital caviar blue 1tb 3.5" 7200rpm internal hard drive €50

VIDEO CARD: gigabyte gtx 970 4 gb windforce video card €361

CASE: nanoxia deep silence 3 €63

POWER SUPPLY: corsair cx 750w 80+ bronze certified semi modular atx power supply €86

Total is €1274

IrlMonk

Hi whitepuffin
are you going to be overclocking?

whitepuffin

Alright monk, this will be my first build so I won't be straight away be I definitely want to yeah

IrlMonk

Cool, just making sure.
Nearly made that mistake myself by ordering the wrong CPU.
Sure your always best to include a clockable cpu and mobo if it's a possibility down the road.
Good luck with the build

SterlingArcher

you really don't need the 16 gigs ram. No game will ever need 16 gigs DDR3 ram. Fact.

The mobo again does not need to be so expensive. An Asus z97 A will do.

The devils canyon I7 is a sweet chip.

You will be gaming on ultra settings.

The PSU try a be quiet 7 600w. Your rig even with 2 cards and overclocked will hit 500w. Any cards in the future be using even less.

whitepuffin

Ah no bother thanks for checking anyway.

So 8 gigs is fine then? Yeah I was unsure if I needed the maximus that'll knock a few bob off the total. I'll change the power supply too just wondering if there's anything else I'll need?

SterlingArcher

whitepuffin wrote: »

Ah no bother thanks for checking anyway.

So 8 gigs is fine then? Yeah I was unsure if I needed the maximus that'll knock a few bob off the total. I'll change the power supply too just wondering if there's anything else I'll need?

WiFi plugs. Will see them linked a lot in builds I can't link it right now. But does the job better than the wireless card. Can get em on amazon hell Argos has them.

Get yourself a surge protected 6 pin.

IrlMonk

Don't forget to include for an aftermarket cooler as suggested by Genghiz Cohen.
You never put it into your list.
https://www.hardwareversand.de/Intel+AMD/59387/Cooler+Master+Hyper+212+EVO++-+Intel+AMD.article

whitepuffin

Ah **** thanks lads almost forgot them. So would 2 8gb corsair vengeance low profile be grand for ram? Last question I swear

SterlingArcher

whitepuffin wrote: »

Ah **** thanks lads almost forgot them. So would 2 8gb corsair vengeance low profile be grand for ram? Last question I swear

Same ram as myself. And ask away. And you mean 2 x 4 gigs

IrlMonk

No need to go lp, standard ram will be fine.
Not unless your running a tight ship and airflow is a concern.

whitepuffin

Haha yeah I meant 2x4 and I also meant do I need two sticks(?) Of them

SterlingArcher

whitepuffin wrote: »

Haha yeah I meant 2x4 and I also meant do I need two sticks(?) Of them

Well two sticks can be better if one goes your pc is not down. But your shout.

whitepuffin

I might as well then, would it be worth getting a 250gb ssd instead of 125gb do you think?

IrlMonk

I personally would just have a 128 ssd for the os and install of software etc,.
Then have a seperate ssd for your files. The size of that ssd is up to you.

whitepuffin

Ah ok that sounds like a plan thanks

designbydan

SterlingArcher wrote: »

you really don't need the 16 gigs ram. No game will ever need 16 gigs DDR3 ram. Fact.

I'm just gonna leave this here :rolleyes:

Dying Light PC specs recommend 16gb of ram

**EDIT : They've actually put them down to 8gb after a day of saying 16gb. Although I would look at this and other poorly optimized (But otherwise good looking) games such as Watchdogs and AC Unity, as being a newer standard for whats needed. 16gb would be worth an extra few quid in my opinion.

whitepuffin

Thanks for the advice, I'll probably need 16gb in the future but funds won't stretch now :-)