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Xmas is coming....

  • 01-12-2014 8:54pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭


    As photographers, we usually lust after rather expensive gear. However, unless you have a super rich family it’s unlikely that you will be opening a nicely wrapped full frame camera or that 300mm f/2.8 lens you have dreamed about.

    But gear isn’t everything, and in my opinion there are things that you can get that will do more for your photography than the most expensive camera/lens combo.

    So, I was thinking, this might be a good place to put your recommendations/wants for the festive season.:

    I would recommend:

    Michael Kenna’s ‘France’. I took possession of this today and it is absolutely stunning. If you own a Kenna book, you will know that you normally get about 40 or 50 plates printed on beautiful paper and contained in a nice clothbound slipcase. This book is huge. It has a beautiful black clothbound slipcase, which contains the burgundy clothbound book. The book has a massive 275 plates of amazing photography. It doesn’t matter if you are not interested in photographs of France, this book has so much to offer. Ok, the paper is not a nice as per usual but that would be impossible in such a large volume. Highly recommended.

    I want:

    The Lee little stopper. I always thought the big stopper, as good as it is, is sometimes a bit too much. This is rated at 6 stops as opposed to 10. I’ve asked three members of my family to chip in, making it totally affordable.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭Gehad_JoyRider


    Micheal Kenna is a brilliant source of inspiration, often i think peoples photography dies of in the winter to a degree, aside the chrsitmas tree bokah and stuff that they do. The tress bare its cloudy/fogy rainy days but to be completely honest I find those those most beneficial you really have to work to get a good picture. Which can only be a good thing :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,429 ✭✭✭dnme


    I would very much like this puppy - The Canon 24-70 f2.8 II
    http://url.ie/wvvx

    It's dropping in price all the time and I'm a patient person. I could go grey market but kinda want to be able to buy the dam thing as well as relax about it and not wonder if it has been used, is it a clone? will I be hit for vat etc


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭Whammy!


    What I'd recommend:

    If there was one photobook that offered anyone who viewed it inspiration, and a drive to be creative and push their photography to the next level then I would recommend that book. But that one magic book doesn't exist :p

    But getting a good quality photobook relevant to your genre is such a good investment. New equipment is always nice and in some cases does ignite a fire inside to do more photography. But I find in most cases that feeling dies relatively quickly when you are accustomed to the new piece of equipment.
    The inspiration gained from a photobook full of meaningful photos will live on regardless what gear you are using :)

    What I want:
    Well if money was no object I would get a Leica M Monochrome with a Leica Noctilux f/1.0 (I'm aware this is the older version of the Noctilux compared to their f/0.95 but I prefer the look from the f/1.0 lens).
    However unless I win the lotto that isn't happening :pac:

    So I'd probably go with a nice leather strap from my camera. I hate the one that comes with my camera screaming the name of my camera.
    Might as well walk around with a strap with the price of my camera stitched into it :rolleyes:
    Something nonchalant and classy would be nice for Christmas :)

    p.s.
    Micheal Kenna's work is spectacular. Great recommendation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭Silva360


    dnme wrote: »
    I would very much like this puppy - The Canon 24-70 f2.8 II

    I can't think of a more versatile lens for general photography, whatever the brand flavour... That would make for one great stocking filler!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭Silva360


    Whammy! wrote: »
    What I'd recommend:
    But getting a good quality photobook relevant to your genre is such a good investment. New equipment is always nice and in some cases does ignite a fire inside to do more photography. But I find in most cases that feeling dies relatively quickly when you are accustomed to the new piece of equipment.
    The inspiration gained from a photobook full of meaningful photos will live on regardless what gear you are using :)

    Couldn't agree more. So much money and time is spent on glossy technique books and equipment. The never ending turmoil in the brain that says that that's what will make me a great photographer. But there is a limit to what you can learn from such books and gain from such equipment. There comes a time when only practice/motivation will improve your photography. The feeling, the light, the moment, all are free and all will make the difference. That's what a good photobook will teach.

    Ps. Camera straps get in the way, ditch it :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 285 ✭✭Whammy!


    Silva360 wrote: »
    There comes a time when only practice/motivation will improve your photography.

    Empirical knowledge. If only you could wrap that and leave it under the tree :D
    Silva360 wrote: »
    Ps. Camera straps get in the way, ditch it smile.png

    Normally I'd agree and currently I don't have it attached. But I'm carrying more equipment lately and sometimes there just isn't a safe place to leave the camera down :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,191 ✭✭✭dinneenp


    Got a tripod over a year ago.... Used it once.
    Got a black rapid sling strap one Xmas and love it.
    If money wasnt an object I'd get a Panny lx100.
    But it is so might be getting a Tiffen nd 10 filter and maybe Photography; the definitive history http://www.dubraybooks.ie/Photography-The-Definitive-Visual-History_9781409346456


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭mystic86


    Silva360 wrote: »
    I can't think of a more versatile lens for general photography, whatever the brand flavour... That would make for one great stocking filler!

    hahaha! Stocking Filler!! Don't think that term means what you think it means!! :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭rainemac


    Whammy! wrote: »
    What I'd recommend:

    If there was one photobook that offered anyone who viewed it inspiration, and a drive to be creative and push their photography to the next level then I would recommend that book. But that one magic book doesn't exist :p

    But getting a good quality photobook relevant to your genre is such a good investment. New equipment is always nice and in some cases does ignite a fire inside to do more photography. But I find in most cases that feeling dies relatively quickly when you are accustomed to the new piece of equipment.
    The inspiration gained from a photobook full of meaningful photos will live on regardless what gear you are using :)

    What I want:
    Well if money was no object I would get a Leica M Monochrome with a Leica Noctilux f/1.0 (I'm aware this is the older version of the Noctilux compared to their f/0.95 but I prefer the look from the f/1.0 lens).
    However unless I win the lotto that isn't happening :pac:

    So I'd probably go with a nice leather strap from my camera. I hate the one that comes with my camera screaming the name of my camera.
    Might as well walk around with a strap with the price of my camera stitched into it :rolleyes:
    Something nonchalant and classy would be nice for Christmas :)

    p.s.
    Micheal Kenna's work is spectacular. Great recommendation.

    Agree with the strap, hate hate neck straps, currently have a neck strap on the camera and I realised at the weekend that its just too heavy, wrist strap on the stocking filler list from himself! Also great idea with the photobooks, any ideas for good ones let us know!
    dinneenp wrote: »
    maybe Photography; the definitive history

    sent the link to the hubby lol!! ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,191 ✭✭✭dinneenp


    I've always thought that camera straps with the person's name instead of camera brand would be funny. Maybe a 5 minute novelty though...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭Silva360


    dinneenp wrote: »
    But it is so might be getting a Tiffen nd 10 filter

    Any particular reason for choosing the Tiffen?

    I've used the B & W and the Lee. The B & W gives a very warm cast, which can look nice sometimes if you don't want to neutralise it. The Lee gives a blue cast, which also can suit certain photos but again easy enough to neutralise. I know the Tiffen is a lot cheaper than both, especially the Lee, but I haven't read much in the way of positives. It might be worth saving a little longer??

    The great thing about the Lee is the ability to use it with ND filters, but I appreciate the whole package is very expensive unless you are pretty dedicated to landscape/cityscape work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,191 ✭✭✭dinneenp


    Silva360 wrote: »
    Any particular reason for choosing the Tiffen?

    Price really! I'm doing secret santa with family and €50 is the limit. I put a few things on my list so might not get it. If I don't I'll buy a better one at some stage.
    It got a good review in some photo website so I said I might try it. I don't do a load of landscapes but love some seascapes, landscapes with long exposure filters and when I get a filter I'll try some (and get to use my tripod!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,026 ✭✭✭✭adox


    Silva360 wrote: »

    I want:

    The Lee little stopper. I always thought the big stopper, as good as it is, is sometimes a bit too much. This is rated at 6 stops as opposed to 10. I’ve asked three members of my family to chip in, making it totally affordable.

    The little stopper is great. The big stopper is lots of fun but is overkill for a lot of the time you are out shooting - around sunrise and sunset and this is where the little stopper is perfect. I use it more than the big stopper now.

    Pricey but worth the investment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,550 ✭✭✭Myksyk


    Got the B+W 3-stop multi-coated filter yesterday from Amazon as an early xmas pressie to myself! Had a lecture last week at the camera club from John Hooton and saw the landscape stuff he was doing with both the 3- and 6-stop. Great work. Have the 6-stop on the list now. Already have the 9-stop from L.C.W.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,182 ✭✭✭Tiriel


    Silva360 wrote: »
    Any particular reason for choosing the Tiffen?

    I've used the B & W and the Lee. The B & W gives a very warm cast, which can look nice sometimes if you don't want to neutralise it. The Lee gives a blue cast, which also can suit certain photos but again easy enough to neutralise. I know the Tiffen is a lot cheaper than both, especially the Lee, but I haven't read much in the way of positives. It might be worth saving a little longer??

    The great thing about the Lee is the ability to use it with ND filters, but I appreciate the whole package is very expensive unless you are pretty dedicated to landscape/cityscape work.

    Was at a talk in the camera club recently and there were examples shown of the colour cast caused by Cokin (magenta), Tiffen (green) and Lee (none).

    The Cokin was the hardest to remove, on all types of photographs (landscape, seascape etc.), especially if stacked. The Tiffen was next, easy to remove though using the tint slider in camera raw and barely noticeable in seascapes, only in landscapes was it noticeable and Lee - minimal colour cast overall.

    It made me think twice about my Cokins which definitely do cause a cast, but are fine if I spend the time removing it and avoid stacking. (That's my pocket talking, can't afford to go changing them right now!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭Silva360


    Cork_girl wrote: »
    Was at a talk in the camera club recently and there were examples shown of the colour cast caused by Cokin (magenta), Tiffen (green) and Lee (none).

    Yeah, Lee filters don't give any colour cast (apart from the Big Stopper). Cokin are renowned for their colour cast, as are other cheap(ish) filters. Personally, I think they are a false economy. People always seem to buy a bunch of them (Cokin) and then regret not getting something better (often meaning they spend the money twice when they were trying to save in the first place!).

    I can definitely understand it if people just want to try filters out, or are not committed to the type of work where one might use filters, but otherwise I think it's better to just save up and live without in the meantime.

    The colour cast aside, people spend lots of money to have nice sharp 'glass' only to put a darkened piece of cheap resin over it. Makes no sense IMHO. There are lots of decent brands besides Lee that offer quality at a not unreasonable price point....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭Silva360


    adox wrote: »
    The little stopper is great. The big stopper is lots of fun but is overkill for a lot of the time you are out shooting - around sunrise and sunset and this is where the little stopper is perfect. I use it more than the big stopper now.

    Pricey but worth the investment.

    That's great to hear. I'm looking forward to giving it a try.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭RoryW


    something useful that I just came across that may interest people http://www.xumeadapters.com


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭mystic86


    Hi all,

    Looking for some advice please.... sorry about the length of this post!

    I currently only have a UV filter and circular polarizer.

    I have a few lenses, but I want to get into landscape type shots and want to get some filters, and I think it might be best to get these filters for my Sigma 10-20mm, which I think has a thread size of 77mm (need to check when I get home).

    However I have spent too much money already on photography this year and so my budget is low.

    I am thinking of getting 1 'proper' ND filter - as in not a stop-gap measure, and then a 'decent' Graduated ND system as a stopgap until such time as I can afford the Lee system in future, which considering the price of the mount, adapter and a couple of filters, could be some time away... seeing as the 'little stopper' is over 100 sterling on it's own with the mount etc

    ND Filter:

    I was at the same talk as Cork Girl, the woman giving the talk seemed very impressed with the Tiffen filters. And they are screw on, so I wouldn't need to buy a separate mount and adapter, which will help with the cost!
    dinneenp wrote: »
    But it is so might be getting a Tiffen nd 10 filter

    Is this the one?
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tiffen-aXent-77ND30-Exposure-Filter/dp/B00CUCIL2K

    Not the best reviews..? It says 10 stop - how many f-stops is this? Are they the same thing?

    This is the one I had been looking at:
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tiffen-77mm-Neutral-Density-Filter/dp/B00004ZCIB/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1417618509&sr=8-6&keywords=tiffen+nd+filter+77mm

    It is 2 f-stops I think. No reviews though, but I think it was the one the woman who gave the talk is using...

    Saw somebody mention B&W above, I guess this would be the one I would get if I don't get the Tiffen:
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/77mm-Neutral-Density-Filter-Stops/dp/B003ZDHP7U/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1417789221&sr=8-3&keywords=B%26W+filter+77mm

    It says +10 stops in the title, but then says 3 f-stops in the description,again I don't know the difference.

    Which would be better, the Tiffen or the B&W? They are both screw on.
    Is there other makes of ND filters I should consider? Other than the Lee as I don't have the expensive mount...

    Graduated ND:

    Again, not going with Lee - the mount, adapter and starter kit cost 300 sterling from Amazon!

    What other brands should I be looking at? Again I don't want a 'proper' pro kit here, I will probably buy the Lee eventually, maybe in a couple of years time..

    What about Cokin? Some not so positive things being said in the posts above, but this kit:
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cokin-H250A-ND-Grad-Kit/dp/B000A40M22/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1417621276&sr=8-1&keywords=cokin+graduated+filters
    Along with the adapter:
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cokin-P477-77mm-TH0-75-Adapter/dp/B000T95Q1U/ref=sr_1_7?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1417621788&sr=1-7&keywords=cokin+adapter


    Cost a total of about 60 euro - nice and affordable... but is the compromise on quality too much?

    What other brands/systems should I be looking at here?

    Silva360 wrote: »
    The colour cast aside, people spend lots of money to have nice sharp 'glass' only to put a darkened piece of cheap resin over it. Makes no sense IMHO. There are lots of decent brands besides Lee that offer quality at a not unreasonable price point....

    Can you expand on this please? Thanks!

    Thanks for any help ye can offer me!!! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,043 ✭✭✭Wabbit Ears


    Santa's sleigh is currently delivering a Nikon D750 from E-global.

    A long overdue mobo/ram/processor upgrade may be in the jan sales pipeline.

    Possibly an 85mm prime for portraits.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭mystic86




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭Silva360


    mystic86 wrote: »

    Can you expand on this please? Thanks!

    Thanks for any help ye can offer me!!! :)


    Happy to answer this, but I'm running out the door shortly. So if you check back in tomorrow I'll give a detailed response. Cheers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭Silva360


    First of all, I want to say that I’m not encouraging spending money on any particular brand, or indeed spending money at all unless you have a commitment to using filters. I’m simply putting forward the proposition that you should try to get it right first time or it will inevitably end up costing you more. Second, I’m not saying people don’t produce amazing work with the cheaper brands (such as Cokin or Tiffen), but from my own experience they are made from cheap materials (break/scratch easily). Thirdly, I am not promoting Lee as the be all and end all, it’s just that I use them and find them to be reliable and generally excellent (I’ve also heard very good things about singh-ray).

    In your example:

    B&W 10 stop £82.72 Lee 10 stop £100.00

    Cokin grad kit £38.99 Lee Holder £20.00

    Cokin adapter £6.51 Lee wide angle adapter £35.00

    Total: £128.22 Total: £155.00

    So in this scenario, you save £26.78 and you also get some cheap ND graduated filters, but you don’t get the flexibility. For example, what if you want to use your B&W with a lens that is not 77mm? What if you want to use a grad with your 10 stop B&W? Both not possible (unless you have incredibly steady hands!).

    Do you need the grads? You can easily manually blend bracketed exposures in Photoshop (or HDR if that’s your thing). But if you do want a grad, with a system like Lee you can add it later when you save the money. Granted, the polarizer is incredibly expensive (I currently use a high quality Hoya, but I am saving).

    In addition, the likelihood is that you will want to upgrade from the Cokin system if using filters becomes your thing, then all of your purchases will become redundant. So that big saving is really no saving, in fact it’s a potential loss.

    In relation to the specific comment you asked about; what I was referring to is people who buy nice expensive lenses and then add a useless, poor quality, piece of crap UV filter that costs £15.00 because they ‘protect the lens and cut UV rays’. BULL. They simply cut the quality of your nice expensive lens. By all means put them on to protect the lens, but take them off when you take a photograph. I feel the same about other types of cheap filters. I don’t understand how a £10.00 plastic Cokin filter placed in front of your lovely multicoated optics will do you/it any favours.

    These are simply my opinions, they may be all, or partially, wrong! Good luck with your decision whatever it is ☺

    Ps. In answer to your other question, 10 stop filters are generally 10 stops. I say generally, because it is not precise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭Silva360


    Apologies, I missed the bit on general NDs. If you buy screw in filters, you will be forever screwing and unscrewing. You can buy a cheaper Lee ND if you just want to trial them (£20 I think).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭mystic86


    Silva360 wrote: »

    In your example:

    B&W 10 stop £82.72 Lee 10 stop £100.00

    Cokin grad kit £38.99 Lee Holder £20.00

    Cokin adapter £6.51 Lee wide angle adapter £35.00

    Total: £128.22 Total: £155.00

    Thanks very much for your reply Silva, but just to point out, those prices are wrong, the Lee holder is 40 pounds, not 20, and the adapter is 40.

    So the price difference is more like 65 euro.

    On top of this of course for the extra 65 euro (225 euro vs 160 euro) you are only getting 1 ND filter and no Graduated ND filters.

    Silva360 wrote: »
    For example, what if you want to use your B&W with a lens that is not 77mm?

    Point taken, very true, though I imagine with the types of shots this is used for the wide angle lens would get the most use with it.
    Silva360 wrote: »
    What if you want to use a grad with your 10 stop B&W?

    Why wouldn't I be able to do this?
    Silva360 wrote: »
    Do you need the grads?

    I'm probably wrong, but I thought that the type of shots where you are using an ND filter would also in the large part need a Graduated ND filter..?
    Silva360 wrote: »
    what I was referring to is people who buy nice expensive lenses and then add a useless, poor quality, piece of crap UV filter that costs £15.00 because they ‘protect the lens and cut UV rays’. BULL. They simply cut the quality of your nice expensive lens. By all means put them on to protect the lens, but take them off when you take a photograph. I feel the same about other types of cheap filters. I don’t understand how a £10.00 plastic Cokin filter placed in front of your lovely multicoated optics will do you/it any favours.

    Really?! I have a 10 pounds UV Hoya Filter:
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B002L72ANK/ref=pe_385721_37038051_TE_dp_2
    and a 23 pounds Hoya circular polariser:
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000KL7JF8/ref=pe_385721_37038051_TE_dp_4


    So you think I'm doing myself a disservice with these?! I thought I was doing a good thing!
    Silva360 wrote: »
    Ps. In answer to your other question, 10 stop filters are generally 10 stops. I say generally, because it is not precise.

    I am confused, because the listing that says 10 stops also says 3 f-stops.. how does that work?!

    Thanks for your help, apologies for the long post once again! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    dnme wrote: »
    I would very much like this puppy - The Canon 24-70 f2.8 II
    http://url.ie/wvvx


    It's an absolute Stunner !! I love it ... I keep getting surprised with the IQ of this lens.

    Check kea photo he has v good prices there ..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,429 ✭✭✭dnme


    the_monkey wrote: »
    It's an absolute Stunner !! I love it ... I keep getting surprised with the IQ of this lens.

    Check kea photo he has v good prices there ..

    You make it sound like this is a one person outfit? If so who is he and whats the reputation like? Also the price there on the lens in question is €1,779.61 which is nothing special and it may well be a grey market import being resold anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    dnme wrote: »
    You make it sound like this is a one person outfit? If so who is he and whats the reputation like? Also the price there on the lens in question is €1,779.61 which is nothing special and it may well be a grey market import being resold anyway.

    Hi,
    Its extremely reputable I have bought many things from him and they arrive in 2-3 days in perfect condition / well wrapped.

    I see the prices have risen, maybe it's a Japanese Yen exchange rate ..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭Silva360


    Re: Mystics queries.....

    I can’t do this multiple quote thing, so I’ll number the answers:

    1. Apologies if I misled you on pricing. I had a quick look on Robert White the day I posted and I was sure those were the prices quoted. The site is down for maintenance right now, but I’ll check again tomorrow. The idea was really about investing in a long-term solution rather than making an immediate saving. You’ll need to weight up the pros and cons and come to the best solution for you.
    2. I don’t know if you can mount the Cokin holder onto the B&W filter, ie, does the adapter screw into the front of the B&W filter? I was assuming you can’t, but perhaps it is possible. If it isn’t, then how will you mount the grad? You really will need to check this if using both together is important to you.
    3. Yes, I would think it’s ideal to use an ND and grad together for many shots with sky included. I really meant that you could possibly manage without for a time while you save for the grads if you went for the Lee system. But this should be read in the context of my last post about brands, expense etc. In addition, if you can’t mount Cokin onto a B&W filter, you’re going to have a problem right there.
    4. This is really a personal thing. But if a lens manufacturers puts so much time and money into producing superb optics, and you then spend lots of money on that lens to obtain the highest quality from it, and then you slap a £10 piece of glass on it………. However, if you are happy with your results, then no one should convince you that you are wrong in what you are doing/using. Personal budget plays a huge part in all of this and I would certainly recommend trying out all kinds of filters (especially a polariser) that are within budget if they give you the results you are after or provide you with the experience to know what you will ultimately want.
    5. I think the description on Amazon is incorrect, it’s 10 stops.

    I hope this doesn’t sound too rushed (it is!!), but I am happy to answer questions as best I can but with the continuing caveat that these are simply my opinions and I appreciate they will not be for everyone (I'm am great pains to stress that this is not a spend or be damned thread!)….. Cheers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,191 ✭✭✭dinneenp


    dnme wrote: »
    I would very much like this puppy - The Canon 24-70 f2.8 II
    http://url.ie/wvvx

    £1447 at one stop digital.
    https://www.onestop-digital.com/index.php?dispatch=categories.view&category_id=113#/product/33307

    And they'll pay the vat back if you are asked to pay it. I bought from them before and was very pleased.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 362 ✭✭eoglyn


    Tamron have a 24-70 2.8 at half the price of the canon. I spoke to a guy who has had both and he insisted that the iq of the tammy is every bit as good as the canon - i think it scores as well on the dxo thingys, if that's what you're into. The only drawback the guy said was that the tamron focuses a bit slower than the canon. Less of a problem within this zoom range i would think than it is for longer focal lengths, but it is what it is.

    Certainly worth checking out the tamron if you are either have cash in hand going to buy that canon or if you know that you will never quite be able to justify dropping that amount of coin on a lens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 362 ✭✭eoglyn


    Actually at 608.99 on onestop digital, it is less than half price there.

    Here is, what i consider, a fair analysis in favour of the tamron with a few valid points made about horses for courses, your mileage varying etc. Further balance, if needed, is provided in the comments:
    http://www.lightandmatter.org/2013/equipment-reviews/lens-comparison-canon-ef-24-70-f2-8l-ii-vs-tamron-24-70-f2-8-vc/

    The VC in the tamron appears to be a big selling point, but the canon is reportedly much sharper at 2.8.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭Silva360


    mystic86 wrote: »
    Thanks very much for your reply Silva, but just to point out, those prices are wrong, the Lee holder is 40 pounds, not 20, and the adapter is 40.

    So the price difference is more like 65 euro.

    On top of this of course for the extra 65 euro (225 euro vs 160 euro) you are only getting 1 ND filter and no Graduated ND filters.

    Hi Mystic86,

    Robert White was down for a few days as they have completely revamped the site. I'm afraid I was very wrong on the prices as you rightly say. Not sure whether that was me misreading or Robert White being in a mess before going offline. Anyway, your figures are more realistic. Good luck with your choices (ps. There is anther thread on Lee Filters (Barker Photographic) where someone called Myksyk is selling off used Cokin gear. Perhaps you might pick up a bargain to use until you make a choice????).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭mystic86


    Silva360 wrote: »
    Hi Mystic86,

    Robert White was down for a few days as they have completely revamped the site. I'm afraid I was very wrong on the prices as you rightly say. Not sure whether that was me misreading or Robert White being in a mess before going offline. Anyway, your figures are more realistic. Good luck with your choices (ps. There is anther thread on Lee Filters (Barker Photographic) where someone called Myksyk is selling off used Cokin gear. Perhaps you might pick up a bargain to use until you make a choice????).

    yup, I have already been messaging him! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,550 ✭✭✭Myksyk


    Hope those arrived safe and sound mystic! Got a Lee 10-filter field pouch from Santa this morning and it's such a good addition to the bag. Also got those white plastic lens caps so I could leave the adaptor on the lens. Happy Crimbo to all. Hope Santa came with photography goodies.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,429 ✭✭✭dnme


    Myksyk wrote: »
    Hope those arrived safe and sound mystic! Got a Lee 10-filter field pouch from Santa this morning and it's such a good addition to the bag. Also got those white plastic lens caps so I could leave the adaptor on the lens. Happy Crimbo to all. Hope Santa came with photography goodies.


    Which white plastic lens caps ? link ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,550 ✭✭✭Myksyk


    dnme wrote: »
    Which white plastic lens caps ? link ?

    Lee lens caps


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭Silva360


    Myksyk wrote: »
    Hope those arrived safe and sound mystic! Got a Lee 10-filter field pouch from Santa this morning and it's such a good addition to the bag. Also got those white plastic lens caps so I could leave the adaptor on the lens. Happy Crimbo to all. Hope Santa came with photography goodies.

    The field pouch is really useful, better that fiddling around with the other one.

    I got the little stopper and two beautiful books from Vincent Munier, 'La Nuit Du Cerf' and 'Au Fil Des Songes'. Happy days!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,026 ✭✭✭✭adox


    Guys do you put your big/little stoppers in the field pouch too as well as the grads?

    Also anywhere to stick labels so you know what is what?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,550 ✭✭✭Myksyk


    I do. I have to say I don't like those tins they put them in, very fiddly to take them out and one of the reasons I was particularly interested in the pouch. At least now I can get a good grip on the filter before taking it out.

    The lee filters are stamped at the top corner so no problem identifying. To aid things I just put them in in a specific order - soft 0.3, 0.6, 0.9; hard 0.3, 0.6, 0.9; 3-stop ND; 6-stop ND [little stopper]; 10-stop ND [big stopper]; polariser.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,983 ✭✭✭mystic86


    Myksyk wrote: »
    Hope those arrived safe and sound mystic!

    Hi there,

    They arrived on Friday of last week to my home address but I didn't get home till Tuesday night and at that stage I decided to wait till Xmas day :)

    I opened them this afternoon but there was so much going on that I haven't had a proper chance to go through them!

    I hope to tomorrow before another priority later in the evening and I'll report back then! :)

    Thanks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭abelard


    Just bought a [url='http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-Alpha-24-3MP-Interchangeable-Camera/dp/B00MTZI376/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1419624361&sr=8-1&keywords=sony+a5100]Sony a5100[/url] from amazon in the lightning sale for STG£299 - looking forward to trying it out and seemed to be a great price. It's well reviewed and AFAIK it's a followup to the NEX 5t which was recommended by [url='http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/best-affordable-mirrorless-camera/]wirecutter[/url]

    Used to be well into photography and have a Canon 400d about 6 years old, with a Sigma 10-20 and Canon 70-200 f2.8. Not really touched them in about 2 years though due to work, free time, bulkiness etc. Hoping with the mirrorless camera I can feasibly bring it with me more places and get back into photography a bit.


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