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Cost of all grain brewing

  • 26-11-2014 6:07pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12


    Hi all. Just wondering what the rough cost per brew is for all grain brewing.
    I realise it's going to be different depending on what flavours you go for, but what would the ingredients for a standard enough approx 20L recipe cost?

    Cheers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    ECau wrote: »
    Hi all. Just wondering what the rough cost per brew is for all grain brewing.
    I realise it's going to be different depending on what flavours you go for, but what would the ingredients for a standard enough approx 20L recipe cost?

    Cheers

    Malt can range from 1.10 euro to 1.40 euro a kg when you buy 25kg bags of grain,l. Smaller bags will cost more per kg, buy ypu will not have to find room for 25kg sack.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,727 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    Interested in the answer to this too. If most kit brews are around €25 and yield 40 pints making it 62.5c a pint how does that compare to all grain or extract brewing? I presume kit brewing is typically the more expensive way to brew?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,030 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Nah, I'd say dry extract is the most expensive option: €19 for 3kg of DME + say €2 for a kilo of specialty malt + ~€5 for 100g of hops + €3 for a sachet of yeast. That's €30 for 20-25L, plus the extra energy costs over kit brewing.

    But I brew this way because the quality of the beer is far superior to almost any kit, and I don't have the time outlay or risks involved in all grain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,381 ✭✭✭oblivious


    BeerNut wrote: »
    Nah, I'd say dry extract is the most expensive option: €19 for 3kg of DME + say €2 for a kilo of specialty malt + ~€5 for 100g of hops + €3 for a sachet of yeast. That's €30 for 20-25L, plus the extra energy costs over kit brewing.

    All grain:

    3kg DME is approximately 5.13kg of malt, a kg of malt (crushed) is 1.40 euro (the high end)

    €7.182 for 5.13kg of malt + say €2 for a kilo of specialty malt + ~€5 for 100g of hops + €3 for a sachet of yeast. That's €17.182 for 20-25L,

    But that can be reduced by bulk buy malt,reusing yeast by making starters and by keeping a small but select amount of speciality grain. Also by figuring out what grain amount give you the best efficiency on your system you could reduce that to 12 euro or less.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32 thelaoislad


    Any idea what the additional cost is in the extra equipment needed to move from Kit brewing up to either extract or all Grain ??
    I have all the gear for the kit, and happy enought with the method, just need bit more practice ... no idea what else I would need or price for other methods , but would like to learn

    Tks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32 thelaoislad


    great , tks for that , had no real idea what to look for ..
    I ll learn a bit more first before i jump into it .. better stick with finishing out the kits i have left first


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,030 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    Any idea what the additional cost is in the extra equipment needed to move from Kit brewing up to either extract or all Grain ??
    I have all the gear for the kit, and happy enought with the method, just need bit more practice ... no idea what else I would need or price for other methods , but would like to learn
    It depends on how easy you want to make things for yourself. I started brewing extract and as well as the starter set from a homebrew supplier I got a 10L stockpot (€20), digital scales (€10) for weighing hops and priming sugar, and some cheesecloth (€5) for steeping specialty grain. You can make perfectly good partial-boil beer on the hob this way. But chilling the wort is a pain, even when topping up with very cold water. When I got sick of the saucepans of boiled water in the fridge overnight I bought a boiler (€70) and a wort chiller (€40). They've made the whole thing so much less stressful.

    If I were going on to all-grain I'd be looking at getting either a bag for BIAB (€15) or a mash tun (€100). At every upgrade, all the bits from the previous method are still used, nothing gets wasted. You can also make your own kettle, mash tun and chiller if you're handy -- there are loads of how-tos on the web.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    I used to biab in the kettle, but last batch I used my bottling bucket, wrapped in a camping foam mat for insulation, which allowed a second runnings for a small 5l second batch

    If you brew extract, the only cost to jump up to all grain is the bag. I got one made by a tailors place from a tulle curtain from your local swedish homestore, about 13 euros; 3 for the curtain, 10 for the triple stitching on the bag.


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