Audi service and ' extras ' rip or not?

i57dwun4yb1pt8

other halfs a4 1.8 petrol 4 years old 46 k on it

1/ audi say the front brake disks needs replacing and new pads .
cost 360 euro - is it likely disks need replacing ?


2/ break fluid needs replacing - 70 euro << is this likely ?


3/ wipers need replacing - 60 euro


4/ audi say the tires need replacing - cost 550 euro for KUMHO tyres ?
what are kumho tyres rep ?


5/ car service on top 120 euro i think .


many thanks if you can advise

Anjobe

Get new wipers from Halford's and fit them your self. Go to a tyre fitter for tyres, Kumho are a decent mid range brand.

For the other stuff, say thank you to the dealer and then go to a decent independent mechanic for a second opinion and quote.

Stallingrad

1/ audi say the front brake disks needs replacing and new pads .
cost 360 euro - is it likely disks need replacing ?
Discs, HIGHLY unlikely, pads maybe.

2/ break fluid needs replacing - 70 euro << is this likely ?
Yes, though €70 is a bit step, €50 at VW main dealer.

3/ wipers need replacing - 60 euro
By these yourself if you feel they need changing

4/ audi say the tires need replacing - cost 550 euro for KUMHO tyres ?
what are kumho tyres rep ?
Cheap end of the spectrum, once again I would buy them elsewhere.

5/ car service on top 120 euro i think .
For Oil and filter this is OK.


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sundodger5

DaDumTish wrote: »

other halfs a4 1.8 petrol 4 years old 46 k on it

1/ audi say the front brake disks needs replacing and new pads .
cost 360 euro - is it likely disks need replacing ?


2/ break fluid needs replacing - 70 euro << is this likely ?


3/ wipers need replacing - 60 euro


4/ audi say the tires need replacing - cost 550 euro for KUMHO tyres ?
what are kumho tyres rep ?


5/ car service on top 120 euro i think .


many thanks if you can advise

Brakes yes if any metal contact or discs below minimum thickness. Would have to see them.

brake fluid. Yes if in the car from new. Fluid takes in water over time lowering its boiling point. Should be changed every couple of years.

tyres are easy to see if worn. Would be cheaper elsewhere I would imagine.

Chimaera

Brake fluid sounds right: it's supposed to be changed every two years.

Brake disks needing changing is harder to call: 46000 km isn't a lot unless she does a lot of town driving with heavy braking. They should have measured the thickness of the disks to determine the need for replacement: ask them about this. If the disks are changed, the pads must be changed too.

Wipers could well be worn - you could ascertain this yourself. Are they wiping cleanly with no noise or juddering?

Tyres you can determine for yourself too: are they close to the wear limit bars in the tread? Kumho wouldn't be exceptional either. Is €550 for two or four tyres? You can probably do better at an independent tyre retailer.

Odyssey 2005

Just had a skoda superb serviced,45k km and the pads and discs were perfect,and it's auto, as for the fluid I'd say probably but €70 is too expensive. The wipers and tyres,if needed can be bought independently. Sounds like they want to rip you a new one to me.

BTW the car is going in for two Hankook All Season tyres on Sat at €140 apiece
Hope this helps.

toastedpickles

1160 for all that? :eek: jaysis that's extortionate!

bucketybuck

How can people on here tell you if the brakes or tyres need replacing?

Just because one car did 45000km and didn't need brakes doesn't mean this driver isn't heavy on the pedal. How are we supposed to know that the pads haven't been worn for some time and went metal to metal on the disc causing damage?

Brakes and tyres are wearable items that are very dependent on the driver, you have already spoken to the people best placed to judge if they are needed.

bazz26

None of the extras mentioned there would be classed as part of a service. €120 for the service would basically mean an oil and oil filter change, plus probably includes a quick inspection which is where they came up with the other stuff. The prices you were quoted seem standard main dealer prices.

Tyres can be bought from a local tyre centre cheaper, brake pads & brake fluid again could probably be done cheaper from a tyre centre if part of a deal with getting tyres. Wipers can be bought cheaper too either online or from a motor factors.

Odyssey 2005

bucketybuck wrote: »

How can people on here tell you if the brakes or tyres need replacing?

Just because one car did 45000km and didn't need brakes doesn't mean this driver isn't heavy on the pedal. How are we supposed to know that the pads haven't been worn for some time and went metal to metal on the disc causing damage?

Brakes and tyres are wearable items that are very dependent on the driver, you have already spoken to the people best placed to judge if they are needed.

Nobody here told the op that brakes or tyres are needed,the"people who are best placed "did. I for one told the op of my experience of the brakes on my car which is as near as dammit mechanically the same as his. I also have a very heavy foot in an auto. If the pads were metal to metal (a) the op would more than likely have heard them and(b) there is a pad warning light on the dash so presumably he would have seen it.
With regard to the tyres and wiper blades the op can judge for himself and if they are needed he has many more and much cheaper options than leaving the car into a one stop shop that the Audi dealership want to be to him. Il bet they would have told him to piss off in the boom.
The posters here have all been saying the same thing to the op on this thread.

toastedpickles

Just went to micks garage there for the sake of it all

you can get nearly everything bar the tyres for about 180 euro

about 150/180 to fit them all id say and whatever size your tyres are depends on the price

i57dwun4yb1pt8

odyssey , thanks alot , if you are dub based , could you pm me the tyre place details ?

thanks

Odyssey 2005

DaDumTish wrote: »

odyssey , thanks alot , if you are dub based , could you pm me the tyre place details ?

thanks

Pm sent..

George Dalton

toastedpickles wrote: »

Just went to micks garage there for the sake of it all

you can get nearly everything bar the tyres for about 180 euro

Let's be clear here. What you actually mean is that you can buy a cheaper copy of the parts for €180.

OP, it probably does need the tyres and fluid change but in my experience Audi dealers are very fond of telling people they need brake discs and pads needlessly.

If I were you I would decline the additional repairs, pay your €120 and get your main dealer stamp in the book. Then get a second opinion on the other items and get them done if necessary by a competent independent garage who will use either genuine parts or good quality aftermarket brands, not the muck that micksgarage sell.

i57dwun4yb1pt8

is there any reason to go with tyres that are 225 / 55 width / aspect ratio

can you have / buy other sizes ?

George Dalton

As a general rule you should stick with the recommended size. 225/55 16 in your case?

i57dwun4yb1pt8

thanks alot all, i learned alot in the last few hours , including how to measure disk and pad wear - appreciate it.

jca

DaDumTish wrote: »

thanks alot all, i learned alot in the last few hours , including how to measure disk and pad wear - appreciate it.

Learn to spell disc and brake correctly and you're sorted. P.S. don't buy anything from micksgarage, everything they sell is either the wrong item (which they won't refund you for) or cheap chinese rubbish, buyer beware:mad:
These guys http://www.otto.ie/en/ sell much better quality components, you gets what you pay for.

mickdw

I use Main dealer for basic servicing on my audi and so most other work myself.
The trick is not to fall for the suggested works.
The basic service cost is quite good value.
Anyway, on my audi, and I do go through alot of brakes in general, I need front pads every 25k miles and discs every third set. The rears about 45k miles for pads and still on original discs on rear at over 90k miles.
Even changing my discs at 70k miles, they were well past the audi recommended thickness.

As a guide, I bought original equipment front discs and pads for my Audi A5 from Mister auto for 143 euro.

i57dwun4yb1pt8

jca wrote: »

Learn to spell disc and brake correctly and you're sorted. P.S. don't buy anything from micksgarage, everything they sell is either the wrong item (which they won't refund you for) or cheap chinese rubbish, buyer beware:mad:
These guys http://www.otto.ie/en/ sell much better quality components, you gets what you pay for.

thanks, Adolf Spellmore

Roger Mellie Man on the Telly

^^^Why would you be annoyed about being asked to do the right thing? It's not exactly difficult is it? Unless you're dyslexic of course.:)

i57dwun4yb1pt8

because it is exactly how Nazi Germany started

Chimaera

DaDumTish wrote: »

because it is exactly how Nazi Germany started

Haven't seen Godwin's Law rolled out here in a while! !

Tea 1000

George Dalton wrote: »

Let's be clear here. What you actually mean is that you can buy a cheaper copy of the parts for €180.

OP, it probably does need the tyres and fluid change but in my experience Audi dealers are very fond of telling people they need brake discs and pads needlessly.

If I were you I would decline the additional repairs, pay your €120 and get your main dealer stamp in the book. Then get a second opinion on the other items and get them done if necessary by a competent independent garage who will use either genuine parts or good quality aftermarket brands, not the muck that micksgarage sell.

Yep, I've yet to meet someone who went to an Audi dealer in the last 2 years who didn't "need" disks!!! It's the new way to make money from the offer of cheap servicing!

mickdw wrote: »

I use Main dealer for basic servicing on my audi and so most other work myself.
The trick is not to fall for the suggested works.
The basic service cost is quite good value.
Anyway, on my audi, and I do go through alot of brakes in general, I need front pads every 25k miles and discs every third set. The rears about 45k miles for pads and still on original discs on rear at over 90k miles.
Even changing my discs at 70k miles, they were well past the audi recommended thickness.

As a guide, I bought original equipment front discs and pads for my Audi A5 from Mister auto for 143 euro.

That's around 75k miles for front disks, which most folk would consider average enough. The OP's wife's car has 45k kms, which is 30-ish miles. She'd want to have the odd visit to Mondello in fairness to thrash disks that hard!

jca

DaDumTish wrote: »

because it is exactly how Nazi Germany started

Ha ha you're a gas man in fairness. I think Enda and co. are more to be feared than me:pac: