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Would someone be able to do a JSA calculation for me please?

  • 16-11-2014 11:02am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 421 ✭✭


    Married couple. Wife lost job, her Jobseekers Benefit is due to run out and she wants to claim Jobseekers Allowance.

    Husband earns gross €500 a week. Pension contribution of €100 per week.

    2 adult children who live at home. 1 away in college (receives full grant) 1 unemployed and receiving JSA.

    There are savings of €50,000.

    Mortgage paid off.

    No second property or any form of rental income.

    Would the wife qualify for JSA or is it worth the hassle. She has tried desperately to find a job in the last 9 months, up on 25 unsuccessful interviews.

    Any help would be much appreciated. I keep getting confused with the savings calculation, whether to use the husbands net or gross income, qualified adult is confusing me too. Thank you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 641 ✭✭✭DanDublin1982


    Based on info provided she would get 50-60 I reckon. (Assuming payment for the kid at college applies).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 421 ✭✭tomhenryford


    Based on info provided she would get 50-60 I reckon. (Assuming payment for the kid at college applies).

    I wouldn't say the payment for the dependent child would apply as it states it can only be paid to someone in receipt of JSA for a minimum of 156 days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 641 ✭✭✭DanDublin1982


    I wouldn't say the payment for the dependent child would apply as it states it can only be paid to someone in receipt of JSA for a minimum of 156 days.

    She'll have been in receipt of job seekers benefit for that length of time and more though. The allowance takes over where the benefit leaves off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,625 ✭✭✭wmpdd3


    Be careful, if she applies for jsa and claims for the person on jsa as a dependant, they will close that child's claim immediately.

    It may take 8 weeks for a decision to be made on a means test and there would be no payment in that time as there is one earner in the house.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 641 ✭✭✭DanDublin1982


    wmpdd3 wrote: »
    Be careful, if she applies for jsa and claims for the person on jsa as a dependant, they will close that child's claim immediately.

    There really is no need whatsoever to worry about this happening.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭eastbono


    Without assessing the savings she would get €78 pw approx but the €50000 in savings will reduce this further I calculate she will get €8pw approx... http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/irish_social_welfare_system/means_test_for_social_welfare_payments/means_test_for_jobseekers_allowance.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭eastbono


    wmpdd3 wrote: »
    Be careful, if she applies for jsa and claims for the person on jsa as a dependant, they will close that child's claim immediately.

    It may take 8 weeks for a decision to be made on a means test and there would be no payment in that time as there is one earner in the house.

    She cannot claim for a person who has their own jsa claim as they are not a dependant. If you are over 18 years of age and not in education then you cannot remain on your parents claim. She is claiming for a dependant child who is in college. She also has a son/daughter who has their own jsa payment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 641 ✭✭✭DanDublin1982


    eastbono wrote: »
    Without assessing the savings she would get €78 pw approx but the €50000 in savings will reduce this further I calculate she will get €8pw approx... http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/irish_social_welfare_system/means_test_for_social_welfare_payments/means_test_for_jobseekers_allowance.html

    Have you allowed for the stated pension deduction?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭eastbono


    Dan if its an AVC it can be deducted but we do not have this info. So I am calculating as it not being an AVC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 641 ✭✭✭DanDublin1982


    eastbono wrote: »
    Dan if its an AVC it can be deducted but we do not have this info. So I am calculating as it not being an AVC.

    Yea true enough. :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 421 ✭✭tomhenryford


    Thanks for all the replies everyone, I've only had a chance to look in just now.

    To clarify, the child that would be claimed as a dependent is the one in college, aged 20. The other 'child' is 26 and on a full rate of JA and independent apart from living at home. They run their own car, buy all their own food, contribute to the ESB and TV/internet, only use their own mobile etc, buy their own clothes.

    The pension contribution, I'm not 100% sure about, it's a weekly deduction into a privately set up pension fund. It's not a work related pension and was only set up about 3 years ago.

    There is no joint saving account. The €50,000 is a cumulative figure of savings both of us have divided in our own names. We have never touched them in over 15 years and I really don't want to have to now but I know SW won't see it like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,758 ✭✭✭eastbono


    Its important that you get clarification on your pension payment. If your pension payment is an AVC or PRSA then that €100 will not be assessed and she should receive payment of €50 pw approx.


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