The Pass of the Plumes

Jesus.

Does anyone perhaps from the Laois area know what's written on this memorial to a 400-odd year old battle fought near Ballyroan? (Or is there a way of zooming in on this image?)

Paulownia

teddyfennelly@hotmail.com in Laois Historical society should be able to help

Cork boy 55

Jesus.

Ach fair play to ye Cork boy. Appreciate that.

I'm chancing my arm here now but do you or anyone else know if there's an account somewhere of the Battle of Deputy's Pass in Wicklow around the same time?

An Ri rua

What is this, a competition to mention the most battles at passes?


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Jesus.

I see what you did there

dubhthach

Uaithne Ó Mórdha to give his actual name was the son of the famous Ruaidhrí Óg Ó Mórdha who was technically "king of Laois". Here's a famous image of Ruaidhrí Óg from "The Image of Irelande, with a Discoverie of Woodkarne"

dubhthach

There's a snippet of an account from an englishman's journal of 1599 in the following which I believe might cover this engagement

http://books.google.ie/books?id=cscQwIzZr70C&pg=PA215&dq=uaithne+macruaidhri&hl=en&sa=X&ei=AnxrVKm2BsvPaP2ggvgM&ved=0CB8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=uaithne%20macruaidhri&f=false

Jesus.

dubhthach wrote: »

There's a snippet of an account from an englishman's journal of 1599 in the following which I believe might cover this engagement

Is that the Plumes or Deputy's pass?

pedroeibar1

dubhthach wrote: »

Here's a famous image of Ruaidhrí Óg from "The Image of Irelande, with a Discoverie of Woodkarne"

Atque dolor? Mihi misero? Adeo! Crede mihi, miseros prudentia prima relinquit. Nunc alieno more vivendum est mihi.
(Etiam lupi desidi sunt!)

dubhthach

pedroeibar1 wrote: »

Atque dolor? Mihi misero? Adeo! Crede mihi, miseros prudentia prima relinquit. Nunc alieno more vivendum est mihi.
(Etiam lupi desidi sunt!)

Remember according to Spenser (the author Fairy Queen) the Irish turn into wolves at least once a year, as a result no doubt to average Elizabethan "woodkern" would be natural allies of Wolves.

Anyways as for bould Ruaidhrí speaking Latin, ye could hardly expect a englishman to understand a Laois man let alone one speaking Irish!

dubhthach

Jesus. wrote: »

Is that the Plumes or Deputy's pass?

I couldn't tell you to be honest, I haven't read enough about the nine year war as of let, most of my interest in "Gaelic Ireland" tends to be earlier.

Jesus.

Cheers anyway Dubhthach

Saoirse Eire

A Chara, forgive me for not being able to converse in our native Gailge as being from a very large family in rural Eire i did well to get to my current age Thank God so just like to make a comment regarding the Pass of the plumes I happen to write a note for the unveiling of the monument,and this is the first time it will be seen by Anyone,So Shin mar a ta she Slan

CASHEL CROSS

Poetry or Prose these words may be,
But maybe they are sheer simplicity

As we gather here in remembrance of our dead,
Though a lot of their names will never enter our head

A little bit of waist ground is where we stand
To honour these great people with the work of our hand

Now let them receive their sweet meadow of delight
May this lovely day bring them a new moonlight

For now as we prepare to go on our way
Remember the pass of the plumes on the seventeenth of May

Alas maybe in another five hundred years’ time
Somebody like me will write a different line

It is my hope this place is not covered with moss

You will never be able to hide the shape of the cross

V8 Interceptor

Jesus. wrote: »

Ach fair play to ye Cork boy. Appreciate that.

I'm chancing my arm here now but do you or anyone else know if there's an account somewhere of the Battle of Deputy's Pass in Wicklow around the same time?

There's a small book about it called Henry Harrington and the Battle of Wicklow.

Do you know of an account of a battle just south of Arklow in 1599? Like the above it was a battle that apparently saw practically the entire English army killed.

The Earl of Essex' Irish campaign was disastrous. Queen Elizabeth would later have him hanged for treason.