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  • 11-11-2014 10:32pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭


    I'm in the process of purchasing a motorised 1m dish, any thoughts on what kind is best? I presume I will be able to program the dish to position at certain sats with a remote control?
    Was wondering what should be the primary sats I should program? Looking for football and anything else worth watching?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭Imstuck


    Just to add, one of these dishes would suit, are they the business?

    http://www.satworld.ie/wavefrontier-t90-torodial-satellite-dish.html

    I currently have a satellite receiver running enigma2, would the foreign channels run on the same system once other satellite's are 'ticked'?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭radiowaves


    Imstuck wrote: »
    Just to add, one of these dishes would suit, are they the business?

    http://www.satworld.ie/wavefrontier-t90-torodial-satellite-dish.html

    I currently have a satellite receiver running enigma2, would the foreign channels run on the same system once other satellite's are 'ticked'?

    I would recommend a Wave over motorised but be aware that you will lose part of the arc so weigh up exactly what satellites you wish to pull in. Toroidal without mods will cover around 40degrees.

    Also, the T90 is the equivalent of a 90cm dish (+-) on each satellite so you will not get everything - although you will get most).

    Your enigma 2 setup will need a little altering and you may need to take advice if you get that far (but it's straightforward once you grasp it).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭Imstuck


    Thank you very much for your reply.

    I would like 9 east to start with, obviously 28.2, and what others would be popular??
    I suppose I'll need to tell the installer which ones I require!
    Where would I find the knowledge required to adjust my enigma settings?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭Big Wex fan


    Make sure you get a black inverto lnb. Helps greatly with some of the weaker signals like Polish HD on 13E. And scandanavian on 0.8E. I used France 3 or 4 on 5W as a starter point. We're 6W so this is nearest to due south. As long as your dish pole is perfectly plumbed vertically, when you get strong reception on France 4 or 5, that should be it. When you select another sat, should move to correct location. Maybe you should consider fitting yourself, place the dish somewhere easily accessable.

    Sorry, probably going too basic, do you know about the usals settings on your enigma box? And the sat lists on the web you can place on your box thru dreambox edit?
    Can seem daunting at the start but all the info is on the net to do it yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭Imstuck


    Please don't apologise, nothing can be too basic for me!!!
    I haven't used dreambox edit, I kept getting connection issues so I used 8888 webif as I found it more straightforward previously, but will give edit another lash.
    Would I not be able to put dish on the house? I just thought it would hide it from the wind a little, current dish is on gable end almost at 90 degrees.
    Here's another dumb question, if the dish can pick up say, 5 sats, would the lnb's send signal for them all? Would I need separate ones for each sat?
    Jaysus I am dumb!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭radiowaves


    Imstuck wrote: »
    Please don't apologise, nothing can be too basic for me!!!
    I haven't used dreambox edit, I kept getting connection issues so I used 8888 webif as I found it more straightforward previously, but will give edit another lash.
    Would I not be able to put dish on the house? I just thought it would hide it from the wind a little, current dish is on gable end almost at 90 degrees.
    Here's another dumb question, if the dish can pick up say, 5 sats, would the lnb's send signal for them all? Would I need separate ones for each sat?
    Jaysus I am dumb!

    It's worth noting that Big Wex's advice relates to a motorised dish...

    With DBE it's undoubtedly a network configuration issue. Try again and post the exact errors you're getting. Or try other alternatives (Dreamset for example).

    You will need separate LNBs for each satellite using wave and a disecq switch (and as you've worked out each signal would be sent to your box direct) and switching channels would be instantaneous.

    Whereas one dish and LNB (with a motor) will pull in all the sats - but switching channels involves delays.

    There are advantages and disadvantages when comparing motorised and a Wavefrontier. I have the best of both worlds but if forced into choosing the motorised would go!

    Your original option of a 1m motorised would have no real benefits over a Wave. Because of dish size any satellites you lose on the Wave you'd also lose on a 1m anyway. But as you've said, you prefer the Wave option anyway,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭swoofer


    say the make of your box/receiver


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭Big Wex fan


    Imstuck wrote: »
    Please don't apologise, nothing can be too basic for me!!!
    I haven't used dreambox edit, I kept getting connection issues so I used 8888 webif as I found it more straightforward previously, but will give edit another lash.
    Would I not be able to put dish on the house? I just thought it would hide it from the wind a little, current dish is on gable end almost at 90 degrees.
    Here's another dumb question, if the dish can pick up say, 5 sats, would the lnb's send signal for them all? Would I need separate ones for each sat?
    Jaysus I am dumb!

    There's loads of sats but finding what to watch comes down to personal preference. But main ones i tend to watch is 28.2 obviously, 23.5 dutch mainly, 19 which is german, spanish, french mainly, 13 italia , polish, greek is there with strong signal also, 0.8 for scandanavion, 5w french and 30w for spanish and portugueese. There loads of others i'm missing out like turkish, other east european, arab channels etc but after the novalty wore off, have'nt really bothered with these. I've a motorised dish and my range is 30W to something like 45E. So 1 satallite at a time.
    If you go into dishpointer.com, you can find the best location for your dish. It's normally recommended to have somewhere with easy access in case wind moves dish and you have to adjust. I have it on gable end and relatively low down wall and can borrow a little bit of scaffolding to work on it, makes it alot easier than setting it up and balancing on a ladder at same time. You'll see alot of folks will put dish in their back garden or on a parimeter wall if they're fortunate to have an unobstructed view. And there's free iphone and android apps which show the sat locations on your phone camera to help find the best location for your dish. There's a huge amount of stuff out there to aid you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 396 ✭✭Imstuck


    swoofer wrote: »
    say the make of your box/receiver

    Sorry, didn't realise I hadn't told you all, it's an Amiko Alien 2 triple tuner.

    So basically, with the 'wave', I can get a maximum of 16 sats, yes?

    As it gets a span of 60degrees (I think!) where should I set it to start and finish to encompass the channels that I would most likely watch?
    Big Wex, mentions 5west should I start there upwards so to encompass 9 & 28.2?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 351 ✭✭Big Wex fan


    When you enter your co-ords we're at 6.odd degree west so nearest strong sat to due south is 5West. france 3 & 4 are free to air so are good markers for your set-up ie your SNR & strength should be high and zero BER. So assuming your dish is mounted correctly, once setup for 1 sat that should be good enough for all. There are lists on web with sats and channels on each sat that you should be able to pick up to help gauge how good your setup is. I did my setup on a triplex which is the same as your box. I think you can get from 35W to around 60E. I'm limited to 30W due to house position. 28.2 is not a good sat to use for setting up as has such a strong signal you'll pick it up without being in the optimum position.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭radiowaves


    Imstuck wrote: »
    Sorry, didn't realise I hadn't told you all, it's an Amiko Alien 2 triple tuner.

    So basically, with the 'wave', I can get a maximum of 16 sats, yes?

    As it gets a span of 60degrees (I think!) where should I set it to start and finish to encompass the channels that I would most likely watch?
    Big Wex, mentions 5west should I start there upwards so to encompass 9 & 28.2?
    radiowaves wrote: »
    Toroidal without mods will cover around 40degrees.

    ;)


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