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Dublin Airport conundrum

  • 08-11-2014 2:16pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭


    Hi there,
    I have a flight into Dublin Airport to T1...gets in at 1800 Dec 30...(probably busy time)
    but I have connecting regional Aer Lingus flight from T2 at 19.00 same date...
    No bag to check in....or collect...I'll bring it on board.

    My question is...how long does it take to RUN from these two terminals?
    Also do I have to go through Security (adds delay) (even though it's connecting flight)...

    Thanks,
    John


Comments

  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,316 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    Your 'T2' Aer Lingus flight may well leave from T1 - many of them do.
    If you can say which flight someone on here may know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,472 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    Did you book 2 separate tickets? If so it's not so much a connecting flight but rather a transfer you take at your own risk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭sephsleft06


    spurious wrote: »
    Your 'T2' Aer Lingus flight may well leave from T1 - many of them do.
    If you can say which flight someone on here may know.




    it's dublin to Kerry from T2...that's the info provided by Aer Lingus


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭sephsleft06


    Did you book 2 separate tickets? If so it's not so much a connecting flight but rather a transfer you take at your own risk

    yes two seperate tickets....different airlines...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,022 ✭✭✭skallywag


    As long as your flight into Dublin is not very much delayed, and the queue for security at T2 is not outrageous, then you should be fine.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭sephsleft06


    skallywag wrote: »
    As long as your flight into Dublin is not very much delayed, and the queue for security at T2 is not outrageous, then you should be fine.

    The thing is: I WON'T have any bag to check in

    You think I would be fine?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,316 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    it's dublin to Kerry from T2...that's the info provided by Aer Lingus

    Yes, they say they are from T2, but many of them leave from T1. Someone who regularly uses the flight will know, though perhaps there are none posting here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,420 ✭✭✭✭athtrasna


    The thing is: I WON'T have any bag to check in

    You think I would be fine?

    Book airport genie fast track security for peace of mind


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,022 ✭✭✭skallywag


    The thing is: I WON'T have any bag to check in

    You are still going to have to queue at security though.

    Getting from T1 to T2 in itself is not an issue, they are pretty close. 5 mins max, if even.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,921 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    skallywag wrote: »
    As long as your flight into Dublin is not very much delayed, and the queue for security at T2 is not outrageous, then you should be fine.
    why would you have to queue for security again?
    You can walk straight from T1 to T2 behind security

    Now assuming its the same as a few years back theres some parts of T1 (the gates 200s and possibly also 100s) that you'll need to talk nicely to a security person to be let back from the gates toward the main part of T1 where the shops/ link corridor is, but it is possible.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,022 ✭✭✭skallywag


    OK, I wasn't actually aware that there is an airside connection between T1 and T2 behind security. Good to know!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,921 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    skallywag wrote: »
    OK, I wasn't actually aware that there is an airside connection between T1 and T2 behind security. Good to know!
    there is indeed and its needed as a lot of Aer Lingus regional and morning regular flights leave from T1, but checkin for aer Lingus is T2 and you use the two way corridor then to get to T1.

    Heres a graphic which shows where everything is.
    Gates in the 100/200/300s are T1, the 400s are T2
    dub_airport_600_nl.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,622 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    How can I get from Terminal 1 to Terminal 2, are they linked?

    Yes they are. There is a link bridge from the departures level in T1 (beside the security screening point) to the arrivals level in T2.

    There is also a link corridor once you have gone airside (past security screening).


    http://www.dublinairport.com/gns/at-the-airport/customer-service/Frequently-Asked-Questions.aspx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭steve-o


    why would you have to queue for security again?
    You can walk straight from T1 to T2 behind security
    The OP will have to go through security in either T1 or T2.
    Now assuming its the same as a few years back theres some parts of T1 (the gates 200s and possibly also 100s) that you'll need to talk nicely to a security person to be let back from the gates toward the main part of T1 where the shops/ link corridor is, but it is possible.
    That is not possible. Shenanigans like that are what might cause an airport to fail a security audit. And just to be sure there are now one way barrier doors to prevent it :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭Larry Wildman


    You just connect airside. No need to go through security again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,921 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    steve-o wrote: »
    The OP will have to go through security in either T1 or T2.

    That is not possible. Shenanigans like that are what might cause an airport to fail a security audit. And just to be sure there are now one way barrier doors to prevent it :)
    i'll admit its a while now, but there was one way gates when I had to track back and the security staff did a manual search just to be sure i wasn't carrying anything suspect and let me through some sort of a side door back from whats now the 200 gates toward where boots etc now is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭sephsleft06


    athtrasna wrote: »
    Book airport genie fast track security for peace of mind

    thanks for tip...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭sephsleft06


    You just connect airside. No need to go through security again.

    I may have picked you up wrong...but...
    when you get off plane, don't go into building? walk to the other terminal?
    Hardly possible, as there is always stewards ushering you into building...?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,022 ✭✭✭skallywag


    steve-o wrote: »
    The OP will have to go through security in either T1 or T2.

    That is not possible. Shenanigans like that are what might cause an airport to fail a security audit. And just to be sure there are now one way barrier doors to prevent it :)

    So just to clarify, the OP will in fact have to go through security after arriving in Dublin, i.e. it is not possible to avoid it via an airside connector corridor?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 703 ✭✭✭Cessna_Pilot


    You will have to go through security in T1 or 2 again. Once arriving in Dublin you will have to leave through customs etc and go back through security in order to go for you flight ex Dublin. No way of just staying airside. Honestly OP you will be doing very well to make your flight out of Dublin.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,411 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Let's make this as clear as possible, once you arrive at Dublin airport regardless of whether or not it's your final destination all passengers must depart through the arrival gates to landside. Once land side you are treated the same as all other airport users who arrived by other means, present your boarding pass, passport etc, there is no facility to keep connecting passengers airside.

    This too shall pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,022 ✭✭✭skallywag


    flazio wrote: »
    ...there is no facility to keep connecting passengers airside.

    I can recall a time (ca 7-8 years or so ago I think, i.e. prior to T2) landing at Dublin, and following a 'connecting flights' type sign in order to get my next flight. Mind you it lead us down a very quiet and poorly lit type corridor, one had the feeling we were not meant to be there somehow! A security guy popped out and asked us where we were going, we told him where we came from & showed him our boarding passes for our next flight, and he gave us a nod and waved on us on. I definitely had the feeling we were somehow 'lost' where we were, but at the same time I'm pretty sure we were just following the 'connecting flights' sign.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,921 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    flazio wrote: »
    Let's make this as clear as possible, once you arrive at Dublin airport regardless of whether or not it's your final destination all passengers must depart through the arrival gates to landside. Once land side you are treated the same as all other airport users who arrived by other means, present your boarding pass, passport etc, there is no facility to keep connecting passengers airside.
    jeepers, it seems that youre actually right.
    Heres a blog piece desribing in detail the procedure for arriving in each particlar part of the airport and why thanks to this unique idiotic procedure Ireland has presented a back door to unauthorised immigrants.
    http://migrationireland.blogspot.de/2012/04/flight-connections-at-dublin-airport.html

    seriously, you must pass "passport control" which actually is "irish border control" - and once beyond this point ANY connecting passenger even ones with a transit visa and no permission to actually enter Ireland can simply walk the 100m and exit arrivals straight onto a bus for Dublin city centre or the rest of the country (or more probable, UK).

    Literally, only in Ireland. Unique, in the true sense of the word.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,288 ✭✭✭crisco10


    So Dublin, despite wanting to pitch itself as a hub (allegedly) has no process for transferring passengers to remain Airside?

    Or have I picked it up wrong? idiotic if so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,921 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    crisco10 wrote: »
    So Dublin, despite wanting to pitch itself as a hub (allegedly) has no process for transferring passengers to remain Airside?

    Or have I picked it up wrong? idiotic if so.
    nope. It seems to be actually as thick as it appears.

    they force passengers who dont need their passport checked (coming from IRL/UK) to have their passport checked
    And then other transit passengers who dont need their passport checked nor are permitted to enter Ireland, have them checked and despite no permission to enter Ireland, are forced to enter "Ireland" and the arrivals hall and are free to skip their onward flight should they decide that Ireland is a better destination after all.

    Like all things with the irish government (the ever professional and efficient dept of foreign affairs aside), it'll take a few thousand stray holiday makers skipping their onward connection to fix this procedural issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    I'd book a different flight to Kerry OP. The chances of cleaning passport control and security back into T2 in 40 minutes to get to the gate before boarding closes doesn't seem doable, especially if they have the usual lack of staff at PP control.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,501 ✭✭✭zagmund


    jeepers, it seems that youre actually right.
    Heres a blog piece desribing in detail the procedure for arriving in each particlar part of the airport and why thanks to this unique idiotic procedure Ireland has presented a back door to unauthorised immigrants.
    http://migrationireland.blogspot.de/2012/04/flight-connections-at-dublin-airport.html

    seriously, you must pass "passport control" which actually is "irish border control" - and once beyond this point ANY connecting passenger even ones with a transit visa and no permission to actually enter Ireland can simply walk the 100m and exit arrivals straight onto a bus for Dublin city centre or the rest of the country (or more probable, UK).

    Literally, only in Ireland. Unique, in the true sense of the word.

    Jinkies, that blog makes for scary reading if it still holds true. Talk about a loophole (never mind an airport missing general airport-y features like dedicated transit facilities.

    z


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭sephsleft06


    Del2005 wrote: »
    I'd book a different flight to Kerry OP. The chances of cleaning passport control and security back into T2 in 40 minutes to get to the gate before boarding closes doesn't seem doable, especially if they have the usual lack of staff at PP control.

    Yeah but it's the last one that night......

    I originally had ample time, the flight from UK to Dublin was something like early afternoon...
    then they changed it to later


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭sephsleft06


    I'll try and sit near exit door, on flight into Dublin, book the fast track through security....
    And wear runners...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭sephsleft06


    when one books the the security fast track...do you just give approx time you plan to pass through it?
    Cause I see it says you have to pick a time...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭sephsleft06


    thanks for the info lads...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    when one books the the security fast track...do you just give approx time you plan to pass through it?
    Cause I see it says you have to pick a time...

    Found this from AerLingus, all may not be lost! There does appear to be an airside connection, put you'll still need to get through PP control
    Connecting at Dublin Airport (Terminal 1)
    You will be arriving at one of four piers A,B,C or D. After disembarking the aircraft you should proceed through immigration to the baggage reclaim area. If you already have a boarding card for your connecting flight, and your baggage has been tagged to your final destination, you simply go to the boarding gate via the transfer area located at the top of the stairs beside baggage belt 1.

    If your baggage has not been tagged for final destination you must collect it, clear customs, exit baggage reclaim and proceed to Aer Lingus check-in. If you are travelling onwards with Aer Lingus to mainland Europe or the USA you must proceed to Terminal 2.

    http://www.aerlingus.com/travelinformation/knowbeforeyoufly/dublinairport/

    And as usual the DAA is really useful
    How can I get from Terminal 1 to Terminal 2, are they linked?
    Yes they are. There is a link bridge from the departures level in T1 (beside the security screening point) to the arrivals level in T2. There is also a link corridor once you have gone airside (past security screening).

    http://www.dublinairport.com/gns/at-the-airport/customer-service/Frequently-Asked-Questions.aspx


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭Larry Wildman


    You just connect airside. No need to go through security again.

    As I said days ago, the OP can just connect airside.

    Yet poster after poster has since said that you can't.

    Why do people feel the need to post when they haven't got a clue?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭steve-o


    Del2005 wrote: »
    Found this from AerLingus, all may not be lost! There does appear to be an airside connection, put you'll still need to get through PP control
    As I said days ago, the OP can just connect airside.

    Yet poster after poster has since said that you can't.

    Why do people feel the need to post when they haven't got a clue?
    The OP needs to go through passport control, the baggage hall and security, at a minimum. If the OP chooses to go through T2 security instead of T1 then they also need to pass customs. If you want to call that an airside connection then I won't split hairs, but please stop misleading the OP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭Lustrum


    As I said days ago, the OP can just connect airside.

    Yet poster after poster has since said that you can't.

    Why do people feel the need to post when they haven't got a clue?

    Let's assume the OP is arriving on a Ryanair flight - this will arrive at the D pier (100 gates), he will then have to follow everyone else to passport control in T1 - there is no other way around this. Once through passport control, there is a transfer channel at the end of the baggage reclaim hall beside belt 1, however according to the info screen there, it closes at 5pm daily. Even if it is open, it leads you to T1 security, which the OP will have to go through again. From there, you can connect to any gate easily.

    Why do people feel the need to post when they haven't got a clue?????

    OP, your kerry flight may leave from T1 as stated,but that won't be decided until the day, and may even change an hour beforehand depending on what's going on on the stands outside. No matter where you arrive to in T1, the only way to T2 departures is either through the transfer channel, or leaving T1 through customs, heading upstairs to departures and following the walkway to T2 departures


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭chrysagon


    There is an airside connection, but you will have to pass through GNIB and then out, and back up to departures and go through security, and as far as i know, Aer lingus regional can use fast track.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,921 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    Lustrum wrote: »
    <snip>

    Why do people feel the need to post when they haven't got a clue?????
    <snip>
    when the DAA has no conclusive or useful information then people will post their view of how things work.

    Actually thats sortof the de-facto purpose of the travel and commuting fourms on boards.
    DAA/ Irish Rail/ Dublin Bus/ Bus Eireann and other semi states and transport organisations are so useless in their provision of information that only asking on boards can provide an answer.
    If the answer is wrong, then its the likes of DAAs fault for not providing the info, rather than a poster who is posting their experiences and views.

    Also, if someone is posting who works in the airport and has rock solid knowledge (yet hasnt a link to back up their definitive statment), then MAYBE mention that you're an expert and then the thread is dead, question answered, after one expert definitive statement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭Lustrum


    when the DAA has no conclusive or useful information then people will post their view of how things work.

    Actually thats sortof the de-facto purpose of the travel and commuting fourms on boards.
    DAA/ Irish Rail/ Dublin Bus/ Bus Eireann and other semi states and transport organisations are so useless in their provision of information that only asking on boards can provide an answer.
    If the answer is wrong, then its the likes of DAAs fault for not providing the info, rather than a poster who is posting their experiences and views.

    Also, if someone is posting who works in the airport and has rock solid knowledge (yet hasnt a link to back up their definitive statment), then MAYBE mention that you're an expert and then the thread is dead, question answered, after one expert definitive statement.

    No problem. Yes, I work in the airport. You may have also missed the irony that my statement was an exact quote of the previous post which was incorrect information, yet complained about people not knowing what they're on about.

    Cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy


    Only way to know for sure is to ask Dublin Airport.

    http://www.dublinairport.com/tns/contact-us/contact-details.aspx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 denis halpenny


    as regards tranfer passengers staying airside when they come through transfer security they actualy do stay airside.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭chrysagon


    as regards tranfer passengers staying airside when they come through transfer security they actualy do stay airside.


    and if transfer is closed, whch seems to happen towards evening you have to make your way landside through GNIB


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 denis halpenny


    t2 transfers security closes when there is no more transfering passengers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,813 ✭✭✭chrysagon


    But if your coming from T1 airside, and your getting a connecting flight, and transfer is closed, you have to exit via GNIB and up to departures.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭sephsleft06


    lots of info there....thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭sephsleft06


    Thanks for that,
    I've noted it down.....

    joe


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