Principles Or Friends?

UCDCritic

Would you rather live a life of principles and be somewhat lonely because it would be hard to find people who always agree with your principals

Or

Would you rather be unprincipled and have lots of friends but they don't stand for anything and they and you are not very intelligent, don't really have a lot to talk about except fluff conversation (Basically lots of facebook "friends")

cloud493

Principle*

NomadicGray

By the second option you mean boards.ie right?

Potatoeman

Depends on what they are. Some peoples idea of principles are just closeminded ill informed pigheaded ideals.

the groutch

Friends, never liked my principal in school.

Karl Stein

False dilemma. You don't always have to agree with a friend's opinions or behaviour and they can remain a friend.

One eyed Jack

UCDCritic wrote: »

Would you rather live a life of principles and be somewhat lonely because it would be hard to find people who always agree with your principals

Or

Would you rather be unprincipled and have lots of friends but they don't stand for anything and they and you are not very intelligent, don't really have a lot to talk about except fluff conversation (Basically lots of facebook "friends")

Well the only issue I would have with the way you phrased your question is that you suggest a person is lonely if they only have a few friends that they know and trust as opposed to having plenty of acquaintances they don't give a fcuk about.

Wait a minute, what do you mean "they AND you are not very intelligent"?

I think I spotted where you're going with this -

You're the not very intelligent guy that thinks your principles are the reason you have very few friends?

catallus

Having many friends is not mutually exclusive to having principles.

The deepest minds understand the rich and varied tapestry of individual human feeling.

"If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
If all men count with you, but none too much;..."

Buona Fortuna

Karl Stein wrote: »

False dilemma. You don't always have to agree with a friend's opinions or behaviour and they can remain a friend.

Karl for once I agree with you. Is nothing sacred.

Calina

UCDCritic wrote: »

Would you rather live a life of principles and be somewhat lonely because it would be hard to find people who always agree with your principals

Or

Would you rather be unprincipled and have lots of friends but they don't stand for anything and they and you are not very intelligent, don't really have a lot to talk about except fluff conversation (Basically lots of facebook "friends")

Most people have principles, dude; the issue is they might not be the same as yours. The issue here is not that you are talking about living a life of principles, you're talking about living a life of principles that are exactly the same as yours.

Most intelligent people know that this situation is unlikely to arise. Even people with broadly similar principles have disagreements on principle.

The question you need to entertain is whether your principles include recognising other people's right to live their lives according to their principles or do you want your principles enforced on others.

LoganRice

A hefty mix of both suits me

Donkey Oaty

UCDCritic wrote: »

Would you rather be unprincipled and have lots of friends but they don't stand for anything and they and you are not very intelligent, don't really have a lot to talk about except fluff conversation

This was actually an early draft of the lyrics to "Swinging on a Star".

redfacedbear

Poll allows you to vote both options - so that's what I did.

Macavity.

I don't care for either option.

UCDCritic

Karl Stein wrote: »

False dilemma. You don't always have to agree with a friend's opinions or behaviour and they can remain a friend.

You must answer the question within the boundaries

Wabbit Ears

thats blaming a random thing on social awkwardness.

My wife and I have absolutely different views on everything and have polar different sets of morals and principals and we're best friends and partners.

Buona Fortuna

UCDCritic wrote: »

You must answer the question within the boundaries

Sure :rolleyes:

dockleaf

Which would you prefer me to answer?

Btw, wanna be friends?

Fat Christy

Both options are sucky, I vote for neither.

The One Doctor

I have both. Do you write for the Indo, OP?

TheBeardedLady

Most of my friends are so right on it'd make some people in here projectile vomit all of their sitting rooms. Liberal lefties and PC Brigaded up to their eyeballs, they are. I wouldn't have them any other way tbh.

I've a few friends who are not and we both spend a fair bit of our time biting our tongues when we're together.

I didn't intentionally choose them but if you tend to do certain things (degrees in media, attend concerts, protests, book clubs etc) you tend to pick up a certain type on the way.

JasperGeorge.

UCDCritic wrote: »

You must answer the question within the boundaries

It's not really an important decision, either way you have no friends.

Friendships without principles are a ticking time bomb. Trust me people without principles will bring a lot of collateral damage. They will use you chew you up and spit you out. They are not friends but users. You are better off being alone then surrounded by users, thieves, shallow users in other words people without principle. It's only amount of time before your life takes a nosedive especially if you are not intelligent enough to sort out the dross from the gold in people.

I would choose to be alone rather than surrounded by assholes. Less head****ery.

That's not based on principles it's self preservation.