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Re online wills

  • 05-11-2014 1:30pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭


    Anyone use the online wills sites for making a will and is that will legal in Ireland?


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,768 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    Offhand no. Any will needs to be written/signed/witnessed, on physical matter such as paper at least from what I remember of the common law rules.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭skippyman


    Manach wrote: »
    Offhand no. Any will needs to be written/signed/witnessed, on physical matter such as paper at least from what I remember of the common law rules.
    Thank you.. Think the way it works is you give all details on line then they post it out to you to be signed by witness etc.. You post it back to them and they send you back the will.. Wondering if it is a legal document in Ireland?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,781 ✭✭✭amen


    Any will needs to be written/signed/witnessed, on physical matter such as paper at least from what I remember of the common law rules.

    how does that fit in with the electronic signing of document laws we have in Ireland ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭MarkAnthony


    Wills, simple ones, are very easy to do youself. The problems come with the laws surrounding the signing, witnessing and executing. OP I would recommend speaking to a solicitor they will usually only charge a nominal fee and if this is in relation to a property purchase you should find them cheaper again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭MarkAnthony


    amen wrote: »
    how does that fit in with the electronic signing of document laws we have in Ireland ?

    I'm not aware of any caselaw on electronically signed wills - as stated above the laws of witnessing and execution are somewhat convoluted. A very interesting topic if there is such case law. I suspect the witnessing requirement is mutually exclusive to an electronic will.

    What if the witness was on Skype say?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,624 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    skippyman wrote: »
    Thank you.. Think the way it works is you give all details on line then they post it out to you to be signed by witness etc.. You post it back to them and they send you back the will.. Wondering if it is a legal document in Ireland?

    I don't understand what you mean by that text that I have emboldened above - once the testator (the person making the will) signs it in the presence of two witnesses and they sign it, that's your will done and dusted.

    There's an implied suggestion that a third party needs to do something to the document (after the parties sign it) to make it a will which is not the case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭skippyman


    I think it's only a template would be interested to know did anyone ever use it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭skippyman


    coylemj wrote: »
    I don't understand what you mean by that text that I have emboldened above - once the testator (the person making the will) signs it in the presence of two witnesses and they sign it, that's your will done and dusted.

    There's an implied suggestion that a third party needs to do something to the document (after the parties sign it) to make it a will which is not the case.
    Sorry it's confusing to you.. Should have said when all the details are filled in on line I think they post it back for it to be signed witnessed etc.. Would like to know if it then a then a valid will


  • Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,774 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    I'm in the process of drafting my own will at the moment and even as a lawyer, I've found the advice of an experienced solicitor invaluable.

    I understand the temptation to try and get things done as cheaply as possible but you have to balance that with the effectiveness of the work. There is no standard one-size-fits-all will, so I'd recommend dealing with this the good old-fashioned way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,472 ✭✭✭Grolschevik


    There is no standard one-size-fits-all will, so I'd recommend dealing with this the good old-fashioned way.

    "No land, no kids,
    Grab what you can,
    First dibs."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭skippyman


    I'm in the process of drafting my own will at the moment and even as a lawyer, I've found the advice of an experienced solicitor invaluable.

    I understand the temptation to try and get things done as cheaply as possible but you have to balance that with the effectiveness of the work. There is no standard one-size-fits-all will, so I'd recommend dealing with this the good old-fashioned way.
    Thank you on second thoughts that's what I will do...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭MarkAnthony


    I'm in the process of drafting my own will at the moment and even as a lawyer, I've found the advice of an experienced solicitor invaluable.

    I understand the temptation to try and get things done as cheaply as possible but you have to balance that with the effectiveness of the work. There is no standard one-size-fits-all will, so I'd recommend dealing with this the good old-fashioned way.

    Can I haz your stuff?


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,581 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    I'm in the process of drafting my own will at the moment and even as a lawyer, I've found the advice of an experienced solicitor invaluable.

    I understand the temptation to try and get things done as cheaply as possible but you have to balance that with the effectiveness of the work. There is no standard one-size-fits-all will, so I'd recommend dealing with this the good old-fashioned way.
    Remember a charitable bequest to your dear old cult leader...


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