"Check your mustasche privilege" - annual New Statesman anti-movember crusade

Foxhound38

I like the New Statesman - it has good articles in it sometimes. But every November it appears to lose the run of itself and get extremely upset at the idea of men growing a patch of hair on their faces to raise money for mens cancer charities.

A quick link to cast your mind back to the thread on their efforts in this regard last year, ya bunch of mustachioed sexist racists!

This year they've toned it down somewhat, and merely want it done away with because one of their intrepid journalists can't grow a mustasche and feels left out.

The article unironically ends with the sentence "check your moustache privilege".

Is it just me, or does it strike ye as strange that the NS would have so little news to report on that they feel the need to work themselves up about a bunch of men raising money for illnesses they themselves might face in the future? The whole thing is a bit odd...

DamagedTrax

idiots.

Earl Turner

Check out the article from the Link by the male feminist who thinks prostate cancer is a sign of privilege.

DamagedTrax

Earl Turner wrote: »

Check out the article from the Link by the male feminist who thinks prostate cancer is a sign of privilege.

everything about that article makes my brain hurt :eek:

Cantremember

Daft to bitch about cancer research and awareness. If Movember helps it helps but looking like Tom Selleck is arrrrghhhhhhhhhhh, not that, no no nooooooo

smash

Cantremember wrote: »

Daft to bitch about cancer research and awareness. If Movember helps it helps but looking like Tom Selleck is arrrrghhhhhhhhhhh, not that, no no nooooooo

Is looking like hitler ok?

sheesh

this years one was a bit of fun. but last years one sounded like a a genuine rant about how culturally insensitive all us white people are by growing mustaches and calling it 'fun' I can only hope that last years one was actually a really well written tongue in cheek 'check yo privilege' article - part of me is afraid that it is not.

My name is URL

Earl Turner wrote: »

Check out the article from the Link by the male feminist who thinks prostate cancer is a sign of privilege.

I can't see it anywhere. What's the link?

Foxhound38

My name is URL wrote: »

I can't see it anywhere. What's the link?

This one - hope you're in a good mood or drinking something strong!

Or this one

Davarus Walrus

Ballachingly stereotypical 'liberals' take time out from writing for the Guardian to write for The New Statesman. Nothing really shocking there.

My name is URL

Foxhound38 wrote: »

This one - hope you're in a good mood or drinking something strong!

With large numbers of minority-ethnic men—for instance Kurds, Indians, Mexicans—sporting moustaches as a cultural or religious signifier, Movember reinforces the “othering” of “foreigners” by the generally clean-shaven, white majority

Only reassuring thing about that piece is clicking on the 'more by this author' which renders no more content. Thank fuck.

Saipanne

smash wrote: »

Is looking like hitler ok?

Note: This is a joke. I don't think you are a loser. :-)

Tin Foil Hat

Anyone who uses the phrase, "check your xxxxx privilege", should be tarred and feathered. Gobsh1tes!

Bipolar Joe

I fucking hate social justice warriors. Well intentioned but terribly misguided morons with no other arguments other than what amounts to absolute cultural separation. They're their own worst enemies.

Iranoutofideas

Imagine if some bloke wrote an article and complained about breast cancer awareness in the same manner.


Career over guaranteed.

What is my mustache privilege anyway? That I'm not generally expected to have one? I'm not very good at growing one anyway.

DuMorph

Earl Turner wrote: »

Check out the article from the Link by the male feminist who thinks prostate cancer is a sign of privilege.

What an absolute idiot. Normally I wouldn't wish ill on someone for their insensitive stupidity but the writer of that article would try anyones patience.

Iranoutofideas

Iranoutofideas wrote: »

Imagine if some bloke wrote an article and complained about breast cancer awareness in the same manner.


Career over guaranteed.

I've come across some SJWs who reckon certain cancers are "cisgender privileges".

Foxhound38

Deleted User wrote: »

I've come across some SJWs who reckon certain cancers are "cisgender privileges".

What exactly would one have to do to summon such people? They don't generally exist in the wild, do they?

suicide_circus

why bother researching cancer? we already know about cancer. why not research something sweet like sunglasses that shoot lasers?

DamagedTrax

suicide_circus wrote: »

why bother researching cancer? we already know about cancer. why not research something sweet like sunglasses that shoot lasers?

you been listening to doug stanhope? if so, i approve

Capt'n Midnight

smash wrote: »

Is looking like hitler ok?

He was only trying to look like Charlie Chaplin


and besides he killed Hitler

BlaasForRafa

Deleted User wrote: »

I've come across some SJWs who reckon certain cancers are "cisgender privileges".

I guess I must be some kind of unconscionable bigot because I had to look up what the hell cisgender means

SparkySpitfire

Personally, I think it's great to see other cancer charities get their time in the spotlight.

Doesn't prostate and testicular cancer affect more people than breast cancer? Yet there's so much done about that.

While I'm at it, where's SKIN cancer month? Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't that the cancer that kills most of us? I know at least 2 people with it.

BlaasForRafa

I think skin cancer is the most common type but breast cancer is still the biggest killer overall. Prostate and testicular cancer are the biggest killers amongst men.

tomleykis

Iranoutofideas wrote: »

Imagine if some bloke wrote an article and complained about breast cancer awareness in the same manner.


Career over guaranteed.

Good point. Why do you think this kind of idiocy goes on? It seems to be getting more and more common.

Bipolar Joe

As a point of interest, I'm not sure Statoil, one of their biggest online advertisers, whose public relations and advertising manager called Jannik Lindbæk jr. and can be contacted through the e-mail address here will be happy to find out that the magazine thinks that raising money for cancer charities is "Bullshit."

SparkySpitfire

BlaasForRafa wrote: »

I think skin cancer is the most common type but breast cancer is still the biggest killer overall. Prostate and testicular cancer are the biggest killers amongst men.

Thanks, I was just going on what I thought I'd read! I'm supposed to be writing an essay on the merits of radiocarbon dating right now so I decided not to pile more research on myself :pac:

BlaasForRafa

Well those facts are off the top of my head but I think they're relatively accurate

Iirc the most lethal cancers are the internal ones like pancreatic cancer. Once it's detected one is pretty much already dead. Cheery thoughts at this time of night

P_1

Ah that's just a tame rant by someone who doesn't have facial hair growing on his upper lip. As someone who's sideburns and goatee seem to have had a massive falling out I can sympathise. However is the NS just offering itself as a platform for people ranting these days?

Wibbs

Foxhound38 wrote: »

What exactly would one have to do to summon such people? They don't generally exist in the wild, do they?

Oh they do, but they tend to keep quiet, or are on toothless committees in colleges and the like. They tend to get heartily laughed at in the wild. This is a good thing.

Media has more of them, in particular the print media, but online media is stuffed with these morons. They find it easy to be louder on a platform that protects them(generally). This goes for any of the extremist types. They also make for fantastic click bait so advertisers love them and ask for more of their guff. They tend to support each other in a clusterfcuk of pingbacks and tweets and the like. This makes these morons believe their opinions are worth more than they actually are.

Signs of the type are phrases like above mentioned "cisgender", patriarchy/matriarchy, privilege, "trigger warning"(cos they're so damned sensitive and weak they pop like a soap bubble at the merest touch), "offence" is strong with them and they actively seek it out. They have no gender, they're to be found among "feminist" and "mens rights" bloggists in equal measure. They do tend to be white and middle class mind you, which is the greatest irony as they actively hate themselves. I call them twats.

SeanW

Wibbs wrote: »

Oh they do, but they tend to keep quiet, or are on toothless committees in colleges and the like. They tend to get heartily laughed at in the wild. This is a good thing.

Would but that were true, these Social Justice Warriors seem to have a lot more influence and are capable of doing serious damage to our society.

Earthhorse

Foxhound38 wrote: »

I like the New Statesman - it has good articles in it sometimes. But every November it appears to lose the run of itself and get extremely upset at the idea of men growing a patch of hair on their faces to raise money for mens cancer charities.

A quick link to cast your mind back to the thread on their efforts in this regard last year, ya bunch of mustachioed sexist racists!

So wait. You posted a thread about this last year and this year? Are you on an anti-New Statesman's anti-Movember crusade crusade?

We're through the looking glass, people.

Skullface McGubbin

SeanW wrote: »

Would but that were true, these Social Justice Warriors seem to have a lot more influence and are capable of doing serious damage to our society.

^^ this.

The more left wing society gets, the more common those types of people become.
Plus, quite a few boards users (including mods) are only a whisker away from being fully fledged SJWs themselves.

Wibbs

Skullface McGubbin wrote: »

Plus, quite a few boards users (including mods) are only a whisker away from being fully fledged SJWs themselves.

Some may be, but I add some balance by being a complete nazi.

Bipolar Joe

Wibbs wrote: »

Some may be, but I add some balance by being a complete nazi.

Holy fucking shit I have a boner now.

The_Captain

Clickbait article gets lot of clicks. Job done

folan

Old Statesman was far better, in the pre Brand years.

hatrickpatrick

This has to be satire, and if it is, it's good satire as it's fooling people.
If it's not............ :eek:

DeadHand

It's becoming clear to me that there is a horde of white middle class commentators in the print media and, to a far larger extent, on the internet who believe that all white, straight males should apologise daily and publicly for being what they are, as well as subject themselves to the same, or far greater, self loathing they themselves have already developed.

We can still largely ignore these twats, but for how long? Their voices seem to be growing louder and, much worse, their fellow travellers seem to be finding their way into positions of governance.

Radly

Skullface McGubbin wrote: »

The more left wing society gets, the more common those types of people become.
Plus, quite a few boards users (including mods) are only a whisker away from being fully fledged SJWs themselves.

Had not been aware of SJW's as a thing up until the last week.
Just read an interesting article on them here ww.rooshv.com/what-is-a-social-justice-warrior-sjw
(cant post links so i took out a 'w')

Wibbs

Radly wrote: »

Had not been aware of SJW's as a thing up until the last week.
Just read an interesting article on them here ww.rooshv.com/what-is-a-social-justice-warrior-sjw
(cant post links so i took out a 'w')

While he makes some good points Radly, you also have to look at the source:

a) it's very American in nature and rooted within certain sections of that culture. So he'd have lots of points to make if he was swanning about some US college social/women's studies bunch.

b) He himself is a next generation PUA type tapping into the market that "all American(western) women are fat harpies after your soul and wallet and foreign women is where it's at" and plugs his e books of his travels and "conquests" to a rabid and sycophantic audience. If you wanna see sycophantic check out his forum. Read it for a week and you'll see guys getting sitebanned all over the place for going against the grain/his biz model and lots of posters some with large postcounts who are now banned. If you don't lickarse the "guru" game over.

c) He and his mates on the couple of sites they run are clickbait central. Designed to rile up and get more hits. To be fair to them they do make one good point about those who take offence. Anytime they write "all women are [insert clickbait here], the offended go apeshít and link his drivel all over the place and grow his audience.

So while these leftie bedwetter offence seekers who only love to shut down any debate are ridiculous twats tweeting and blogging to look for attention in their lives, don't be so ready to seek out their opposers, who are usually just as extreme, just as ridiculous and usually trying to flog their wares to a section of men(usually US men) who are feeling confused and angry about some matters in the modern world.

Radly

Wibbs wrote: »

While he makes some good points Radly, you also have to look at the source:

a) it's very American in nature and rooted within certain sections of that culture. So he'd have lots of points to make if he was swanning about some US college social/women's studies bunch.

b) He himself is a next generation PUA type tapping into the market that "all American(western) women are fat harpies after your soul and wallet and foreign women is where it's at" and plugs his e books of his travels and "conquests" to a rabid and sycophantic audience. If you wanna see sycophantic check out his forum. Read it for a week and you'll see guys getting sitebanned all over the place for going against the grain/his biz model and lots of posters some with large postcounts who are now banned. If you don't lickarse the "guru" game over.

c) He and his mates on the couple of sites they run are clickbait central. Designed to rile up and get more hits. To be fair to them they do make one good point about those who take offence. Anytime they write "all women are [insert clickbait here], the offended go apeshít and link his drivel all over the place and grow his audience.

So while these leftie bedwetter offence seekers who only love to shut down any debate are ridiculous twats tweeting and blogging to look for attention in their lives, don't be so ready to seek out their opposers, who are usually just as extreme, just as ridiculous and usually trying to flog their wares to a section of men(usually US men) who are feeling confused and angry about some matters in the modern world.

Good points Wibbs. Yes from a further look at that website it would seem he is not without his own agendas. He must be getting a lot of backs up if he is getting first page google for the SJW term.
I'm generally more middle of the road myself but I guess these SJW folk bring out the right in me when I see how they behave and the refusal to contemplate that they might be doing more bad than good in a given situation.

Wibbs

Wibbs wrote: »

Oh they do, but they tend to keep quiet, or are on toothless committees in colleges and the like. They tend to get heartily laughed at in the wild. This is a good thing.

Well not quite. http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2014/11/03/sexual-harassment-policy-that-nearly-ruined-life/hY3XrZrOdXjvX2SSvuciPN/story.html

SeanW

Deleted User wrote: »

Well not quite. http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2014/11/03/sexual-harassment-policy-that-nearly-ruined-life/hY3XrZrOdXjvX2SSvuciPN/story.html

The scary thing is that there are likely to be some people (i.e. feminists and/or leftists) who would consider that to be justice.

RDM_83 again

Radly wrote: »

I'm generally more middle of the road myself but I guess these SJW folk bring out the right in me when I see how they behave and the refusal to contemplate that they might be doing more bad than good in a given situation.

Tell me about it And I've voted when I had the chance for Eamon McMcann (might disagree with some of his stuff but he actually has some belief and guts unlike other fellow travellers)

Wibbs

Deleted User wrote: »

Well not quite. http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2014/11/03/sexual-harassment-policy-that-nearly-ruined-life/hY3XrZrOdXjvX2SSvuciPN/story.html

Oh sure B, but again that's America. This extreme daftness seems to be a way to get the "left" into the mainstream. They can't call it leftist, that's too "reds under the bed", so it comes in as "liberal". On the other side you have your Tea Party types. It can be a culture of extremes. What we might experience ins Ireland or in Europe in general is less of an extreme(though some of the Scandinavian left can be near farcically daft). In law and social attitudes. Even in the US there is a huge difference between ivy league and ivory tower liberals and the culture outside those gates. The extreme just seems to have more traction because they shout the loudest.

Potatoeman

I thought tumblr was created to keep these people in one place and away from the rest of us?

DeadHand

In summary...

Practice commonsense, moderation, avoid extremes on both sides and, when in doubt, listen to Wibbs.

Wibbs

DeadHand wrote: »

Practice commonsense...listen to Wibbs.

Does not compute... :eek::D

Wibbs

Wibbs wrote: »

Oh sure B, but again that's America. This extreme daftness seems to be a way to get the "left" into the mainstream. They can't call it leftist, that's too "reds under the bed", so it comes in as "liberal". On the other side you have your Tea Party types. It can be a culture of extremes. What we might experience ins Ireland or in Europe in general is less of an extreme(though some of the Scandinavian left can be near farcically daft). In law and social attitudes. Even in the US there is a huge difference between ivy league and ivory tower liberals and the culture outside those gates. The extreme just seems to have more traction because they shout the loudest.

It's a place where an awful lot of people have to pass through however, and get shaped by. It applies to more than just the Ivy league schools. Remember yer one claimed the Duke University Lacrosse team raped her? It doesn't take much to find stuff from Irish people about "rape culture" and all the rest either.