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Best 1 litre car and why

  • 04-11-2014 5:27pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭


    hi guys thinkin of getting myself a car possibly in the new year.
    Whats the best 1 litre and why?
    I want a reliable car and im afraid my budget is low 2000/3000 max.
    3 door would be ideal also.

    thanks for reading and looking forward re replies.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 468 ✭✭Gordy6040


    I've had a clio for the lay 11 years. It's never broken down or failed am nct. 88k on the clock and still going strong. You should be able to get something like that into your budget.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭malinheader


    My son just got his first provisional so needed small engine car for his insurance. He bought a 06 Clio 1.2 nice comfortable car reliable and didnt cost him an arm and a leg either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭ptyloch


    I'd go for a 00-02 Vw Polo, real 1.0, great little car, I use it for driving to work and occasionally to go Limerick-Dublin and it's perfect. With your budget you could pick one up and bring it to a trusted mechanic to sort out every little detail and you'll have a car for years. That's what I did 2 years ago, picked one up for €600 and put €900 into it (parts and labour). Flew through 2 NCT's, never missed a beat. What more can you ask for?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,817 ✭✭✭✭Dord


    For that money maybe a VW Lupo or Seat equivalent (can't remember the name)?


  • Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,774 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    If you don't care too much about the aesthetics, Nissan Micra is an absolute trooper from the reliability side. My first car was an 01 Micra and it's still on the road and flying. They are a little on the pricey side for this reason so you may have to go back to an older model to fit your budget - the newest you'll get for that price is 10 years old.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,261 ✭✭✭mgbgt1978


    Gordy6040 wrote: »
    I've had a clio for the lay 11 years. It's never broken down or failed am nct. 88k on the clock and still going strong. You should be able to get something like that into your budget.

    OP did say they were on the hunt for a 1 litre...
    .....of course the answer is YARIS, YARIS, YARIS. Loads within budget & fairly roomy too for a 1 litre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,132 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    mgbgt1978 wrote: »
    .....of course the answer is YARIS, YARIS, YARIS. Loads within budget & fairly roomy too for a 1 litre.

    By far the most expensive of them all and the main reason for that is because everyone in the pub and on boards says the answer is YARIS ;)

    Micra of that generation (pre '02) is as reliable as a car gets and hundreds cheaper than a Yaris in the same condition

    Others are cheaper again but perhaps not quite as reliable. I'd consider a FIAT Seicento too, can be head for very little money (less than half of a decent Micra) and is more fun to drive than most of them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,157 ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    mgbgt1978 wrote: »
    OP did say they were on the hunt for a 1 litre...
    .....of course the answer is YARIS, YARIS, YARIS. Loads within budget & fairly roomy too for a 1 litre.

    Not far off 1.0 litres to be fair....

    OP, I wouldn't be too hung up on the 1.0 litre thing, anything in and around that should be more or less the same. And the tax difference isn't all that much.

    The Yaris is a good choice, but it is an expensive choice, they are in high demand and good ones command a higher price. I think I'd have to echo the Clio idea. Not fond of the Polo from the early 2000's, very old fashioned car, and the newer model from 2003ish is not a good engine (the 1.2 3 cylinder).


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,794 ✭✭✭Jesus.


    ptyloch wrote: »
    I use it for driving to work and occasionally to go Limerick-Dublin and it's perfect.

    Perfect? Excruciating I'd say


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,576 ✭✭✭Skill Magill


    Micra - well me mams micra, for obvious reasons


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    unkel wrote: »
    By far the most expensive of them all and the main reason for that is because everyone in the pub and on boards says the answer is YARIS ;)

    Micra of that generation (pre '02) is as reliable as a car gets and hundreds cheaper than a Yaris in the same condition

    Others are cheaper again but perhaps not quite as reliable. I'd consider a FIAT Seicento too, can be head for very little money (less than half of a decent Micra) and is more fun to drive than most of them
    The mk1 yaris is the best 1 litre car by some distance, the others you mention don't come close. The Yaris's popularity and reputation for being a quality product is why they are expensive to buy.

    The upshot of this however is that it will always be easy to sell afterwards and for a nice bit of what you paid for it too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    Not far off 1.0 litres to be fair....

    OP, I wouldn't be too hung up on the 1.0 litre thing, anything in and around that should be more or less the same. And the tax difference isn't all that much.

    The Yaris is a good choice, but it is an expensive choice, they are in high demand and good ones command a higher price. I think I'd have to echo the Clio idea. Not fond of the Polo from the early 2000's, very old fashioned car, and the newer model from 2003ish is not a good engine (the 1.2 3 cylinder).

    The tax difference between 1.0 and 1.1 is €100 euro per annum and €130 and €158 more for a 1.2 and 1.3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭Toyotafanboi


    JohnBoy26 wrote: »
    The mk1 yaris is the best 1 litre car by some distance, the others you mention don't come close. The Yaris's popularity and reputation for being a quality product is why they are expensive to buy.

    The upshot of this however is that it will always be easy to sell afterwards and for a nice bit of what you paid for it too.

    i'd have to agree. the mk1 yaris is the most expensive small car, because the people in the pub got it right for once, it is the most reliable, easiest to run small car out there.

    it's much roomier and much more modern than a k11 micra of the same vintage. if i had 3k to spend and wanted "the best" small car, it'd be a yaris.

    if i was more budget restricted i might look at a micra, mk2 punto or fiesta.

    your money is safe in the yaris too. my parents bought a 2000 1.0 yaris 3 years ago for a second car for the household for €1600 and i'm pretty confident if we went to sell it now we could still advertise it for €1600. in those 3 years, the yaris has had one oil change and a set of front pads in that time, so <€50 maintenance. we don't take too great a care of it and it is still extremely reliable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,817 ✭✭✭✭Dord


    Looking at spritmonitor.de, the mpg for the Yaris, Lupo, and Micra 1 litre's is about the same. In and around 45mpg average. As mentioned, the Yaris is definitely a favourite (not one of mine though!) and commands more on the used market.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,560 ✭✭✭porsche boy


    for reliability, quality and good resale value it would be either a Yaris or a micra. The K11 micra (up to 2002) is a better car in my eyes although I'm sure someone will be along to say the K12 model is better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,384 ✭✭✭pred racer


    Another vote for the micra, I had one and it was unbreakable, even by me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,522 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    JohnBoy26 wrote: »
    The tax difference between 1.0 and 1.1 is €100 euro per annum and €130 and €158 more for a 1.2 and 1.3

    Most 1.1 cars in that sector (eg 206, C2, C3, 106, saxo) are slightly over 1.1, meaning 1.2 tax.
    1.2 fiesta and punto are over 1.2 (1.25) so are taxed as 1.3

    1.0 to 1.1 adds €100 fair enough, but its adding €100 to 200 ie 50% more

    If you take any of the French stuff above, you're looking €330 (€131 more)

    Punto/fiesta is €358 a year


    In the grand scheme of things, they're all cheap. But tax does matter to people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    Irish Micra's were built in the uk and they did give a few small problems, but problems that were enough to stop them.

    A reliable car, most definatly but bulletproof, no. Tin worm likes them a lot too :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,522 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    JohnBoy26 wrote: »
    Irish Micra's were built in the uk and they did give a few small problems, but problems that were enough to stop them.

    A reliable car, most definatly but bulletproof, no. Tin worm likes them a lot too :D

    They're a bit old hat now too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    They're a bit old hat now too.
    True. It must be nearly 23 years since it's launch at this stage. Didn't do great in the euro ncap either, I suppose many cars of the time didn't either though tbf.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,676 ✭✭✭kay 9


    The micra or yaris. Personally the pre 02 micra for me. If only todays cars were as easy work on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,261 ✭✭✭mgbgt1978


    unkel wrote: »
    Micra of that generation (pre '02) is as reliable as a car gets and hundreds cheaper than a Yaris in the same condition


    Timing chain wear is a very prevalent issue with the K11...and the kit alone (pre-labour) is around the €390 mark. The front crossmember is guaranteed to rust, and usually the sills and boot floor aren't far behind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭kz44


    hey guys tanx so much re replies I should have said this isnt my first car ive had A MICRA,POLO AND YARIS PREVIOUS.
    Just trying to figure out which be the best im aware a 1.2 is a stronger car alright but with wage im on i want a cheap reliable car.
    YARIS IT IS SO AND YES THEY ARE DEAR.
    really appreciate all advice given oh and sorry to those re a CLIO ive had mates who had that car and wasnt good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭kz44


    Oh and my rason for posting this is its 6yrs since had a car so just wanted to be sure which best. Tanx again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭kz44


    REASON


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    Most 1.1 cars in that sector (eg 206, C2, C3, 106, saxo) are slightly over 1.1, meaning 1.2 tax.
    1.2 fiesta and punto are over 1.2 (1.25) so are taxed as 1.3

    1.0 to 1.1 adds €100 fair enough, but its adding €100 to 200 ie 50% more

    If you take any of the French stuff above, you're looking €330 (€131 more)

    Punto/fiesta is €358 a year


    In the grand scheme of things, they're all cheap. But tax does matter to people.
    My point was that the difference between them in tax isn't that small.

    The jump of €100 for .1 of a litre is massive when you consider it costs €58 for .2 of a litre when jumping from 1.1 to 1.3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 725 ✭✭✭Keep_Her_Lit


    Personally, I'd go for this:



    It's 1 litre, as required.
    The Yamaha R1 engine should be pretty reliable if looked after.
    Not sure about the budget of €2-3k ... some further research may be needed.
    Why? A whole bunch of laughs!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,259 ✭✭✭chicorytip


    The Yaris is a good car, no doubt, but seriously "uncool" , mostly suitable for elderly nuns.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    chicorytip wrote: »
    The Yaris is a good car, no doubt, but seriously "uncool" , mostly suitable for elderly nuns.

    Breaking down is also uncool.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    chicorytip wrote: »
    The Yaris is a good car, no doubt, but seriously "uncool" , mostly suitable for elderly nuns.
    Top Gear has you well informed :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭Frankie Lee


    The mk1 yaris design wise has aged very well in comparison to its competitors. I thought they were ridiculous looking things when released but they definitely got that one right in the long run.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,322 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha


    Yaris if possible, but 1.0 Polo would be cheaper, made till 02 and a great little cool car. My wife bought a new one in 1997 and loved it. Lively enough for 1.0 and solidly made.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,532 ✭✭✭JohnBoy26


    Yaris if possible, but 1.0 Polo would be cheaper made till 02 and a great little cool car. My wife bought a new one in 1997 and loved it. Lively enough for 1.0 and solidly made.
    Nice looking car and on the inside the facelifts are a nice enough place to be. They are also comfortable for a small car.

    the 1.0 engines can give trouble in them though and the pre facelifts suffer from rotted out sills.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,259 ✭✭✭chicorytip


    Breaking down is also uncool.[/quot
    Good point !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,259 ✭✭✭chicorytip


    JohnBoy26 wrote: »
    Top Gear has you well informed :rolleyes:

    I've never found Clarkson & co. to be in any way informative on motoring matters.😊


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭ptyloch


    Jesus. wrote: »
    Perfect? Excruciating I'd say

    Not at all, even with 2 small kids will always take it over the Mazda 5 we have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,846 ✭✭✭Moneymaker


    Yaris by quite a distance imo. Micra would be second.

    Avoid the Polo and Corsa like the plague. Awful cars to be in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,322 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha


    Moneymaker wrote: »
    Yaris by quite a distance imo. Micra would be second.

    Avoid the Polo and Corsa like the plague. Awful cars to be in.

    1.0 Polo were a nice car to be in, Corsa was not nice agreed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭kz44


    Personally, I'd go for this:



    It's 1 litre, as required.
    The Yamaha R1 engine should be pretty reliable if looked after.
    Not sure about the budget of €2-3k ... some further research may be needed.
    Why? A whole bunch of laughs!

    lmao IDEAL FAMILY CAR GREAT FOR DA WEEKLY SHOP


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭kz44


    JohnBoy26 wrote: »
    Top Gear has you well informed :rolleyes:


    IM DA STIG HEHE


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭kz44


    JohnBoy26 wrote: »
    My point was that the difference between them in tax isn't that small.

    The jump of €100 for .1 of a litre is massive when you consider it costs €58 for .2 of a litre when jumping from 1.1 to 1.3
    YEP HAD 1.2 POLO AWARE OF THE TAX ETC AND BE STRONGER ON ROAD ALRIGHT.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭kz44


    chicorytip wrote: »
    The Yaris is a good car, no doubt, but seriously "uncool" , mostly suitable for elderly nuns.



    NOW NOW HAHA TIS A GRAND CAR. FROM SISTER ANNEY


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭kz44


    Yaris if possible, but 1.0 Polo would be cheaper, made till 02 and a great little cool car. My wife bought a new one in 1997 and loved it. Lively enough for 1.0 and solidly made.



    YEP HAD A 02 GRAND CAR.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭reginald


    Bought a 99 micra recently as was really stuck for a daily commuter that wouldn't break the bank. Cross member/ Front panel had been replaced last year, rust was noticeable at bottom of the doors so patched them up with fibreglass and a coat of Shutz. 4 new tyres and sailed through its NCT. €56 for 3 months tax, power steering and a good aul CD player. Car does an average of 400 miles a week and never skips a beat. Have had her up to 80mph on occasions and not a rattle from it !! Mechanic told me they stopped making them because they never broke down lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 382 ✭✭eire-kp


    If you get a nice spec Corsa they're not a bad place to be. An 1.2 Sxi is a grand car, comfier seats, white dials, silver center console, alloys etc and just generally a nicer place to sit than bog standard cars. Avoid the 1ltr though they're terrible. I got one as a tempory car and it did 48-50mpg consistently on trips from Mayo to Dublin although I drove it very easy to get that.
    I'm working in the UK now and have a car here but kept the Corsa to save hiring a car anytime I'm home, I really rate them as a run about.
    At the time I couldn't face buying a Yaris even though they're a great car as I knew I would hate every minute I spent in it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭kz44


    this is interesting i had 2 micras an 80s and 90s version the 80s was grand the early 90s very light on the road. So thanks I wouldnt be doing high milage ish as want to be able to travel apart from work uuuuuummmm. Have 2 months to decide so may just view an auld micra 2


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭kz44


    well hello england so shocked re all me replies as only expected the 1. suppose any 1.2 would be stronger alright. Ive seen the 1litre alright again I heard wasnt a grat car but guess u need speak to the right people eh . tanx


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