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FTA + Saorview

  • 29-10-2014 3:09pm
    #1
    KERSPLAT!
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    I'm looking to get all the Irish stations and the FTA stations, Film4, C4, ITV etc. but I haven't a clue where to start or what I need.

    I have a TV aerial and a Sky dish on the roof. What kind of receiver do I need or is there a TV I can buy with a receiver built in?

    Do I need to hook it up to the aerial or the Sky dish or neither or both?

    Am I in the right forum even? :P

    Any and all help much appreciated :)


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  • #2
    mackersdublin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,471 ✭✭✭mackersdublin


    KERSPLAT! wrote: »
    I'm looking to get all the Irish stations and the FTA stations, Film4, C4, ITV etc. but I haven't a clue where to start or what I need.

    I have a TV aerial and a Sky dish on the roof. What kind of receiver do I need or is there a TV I can buy with a receiver built in?

    Do I need to hook it up to the aerial or the Sky dish or neither or both?

    Am I in the right forum even? :P

    Any and all help much appreciated :)

    All you need is your aerial and sky dish to get the channels you want

    If you're willing to pay around €700, most Samsung Smart TVs have Saorview and are Freesat approved. Make sure the model you're buying has a satellite tuner


  • #3
    Kristopherus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    If €700 is not your thing, then there's a myriad in combo boxes available. Have a look at www.satellite.ie, www.tvtrade.ie, www.satsklep.pl. you could also take a look at www.ferguson.eu. They are manufacturers.


  • #4
    KERSPLAT!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    I have a standard TV and money would be an issue so if it's cheaper to just buy a receiver then I'll do that

    Is it just a case of straight from the aerial to receiver and dish to receiver?

    Any suggestions on decent receivers that don't cost a fortune?

    Also, would I be better off getting someone to do this or is it handy enough?


  • #5
    KERSPLAT!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    This?


  • #6
    techdiver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,291 ✭✭✭techdiver


    You don't need to spend big money on a TV with both Saorview and freesat.

    You can get a decent 40" with both for the €400 mark in most shops.


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  • #7
    KERSPLAT!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    techdiver wrote: »
    You don't need to spend big money on a TV with both Saorview and freesat.

    You can get a decent 40" with both for the €400 mark in most shops.

    Would it be as handy to get that receiver above and only have to connect the dish?

    Already have an alright TV so I can just hook it up to that


  • #8
    techdiver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,291 ✭✭✭techdiver


    KERSPLAT! wrote: »
    Would it be as handy to get that receiver above and only have to connect the dish?

    Already have an alright TV so I can just hook it up to that

    Oh yeah, if you are happy with your TV getting the receiver is the correct call.

    Once you have the sky dish you just hook it into the new receiver and get a normal indoor uhf aerial for the saorview channels (unless you already have an antenna on the roof).


  • #9
    KERSPLAT!
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    techdiver wrote: »
    Oh yeah, if you are happy with your TV getting the receiver is the correct call.

    Once you have the sky dish you just hook it into the new receiver and get a normal indoor uhf aerial for the saorview channels (unless you already have an antenna on the roof).

    The one I linked above has a built in antenna for terrestrial channels I think so it looks like a decent option. €100 seems OK too :)

    Thanks everyone


  • #10
    mackersdublin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,471 ✭✭✭mackersdublin


    techdiver wrote: »
    You don't need to spend big money on a TV with both Saorview and freesat.

    You can get a decent 40" with both for the €400 mark in most shops.

    Only Samsung & Panasonic make Freesat TVs

    Others are just Now & Next FTA tuners


  • #11
    Thurston?
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Thurston?


    techdiver wrote: »
    ... get a normal indoor uhf aerial for the saorview channels

    Indoor aerials won't work everywhere.
    KERSPLAT! wrote: »
    The one I linked above has a built in antenna for terrestrial channels

    The aerial is not built in, it's included as part of the kit. Type is unspecified but it's probably this one.


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  • #12
    KERSPLAT!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Thurston? wrote: »
    Indoor aerials won't work everywhere.



    The aerial is not built in, it's included as part of the kit. Type is unspecified but it's probably this one.

    Oh :/

    Sure I'll just use the aerial that's already up

    Is it direct from the aerial and sky dish to the receiver, yeah? I remember years ago we had a box behind the TV that the coax went into from the aerial and back out to TV, it also had mains power, anything like that needed?


  • #13
    Thurston?
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Thurston?


    KERSPLAT! wrote: »
    ... I remember years ago we had a box behind the TV that the coax went into from the aerial and back out to TV, it also had mains power, anything like that needed?

    The box was more than likely a power supply for a masthead amplifier, with the amplifier itself usually being located near the aerial. They wouldn't be fitted on every aerial installation.


  • #14
    KERSPLAT!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Thurston? wrote: »
    The box was more than likely a power supply for a masthead amplifier, with the amplifier itself usually being located near the aerial. They wouldn't be fitted on every aerial installation.

    That must be it, there was a box on the aerial too I think, a red one afaik


  • #15
    Avns1s
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭Avns1s


    Since you have a dish and an aerial, presumably both in working order, I'd suggest this or this also from satellite.ie


  • #16
    KERSPLAT!
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    Avns1s wrote: »
    Since you have a dish and an aerial, presumably both in working order, I'd suggest this or this also from satellite.ie

    Thanks, had been looking at the first one

    If I use this

    http://www.satellite.ie/cgi-bin/ss000001.pl?PRODREF=satufhcom&NOLOGIN=1

    Can I run a cable from the aerial to it and the dish to it and then one cable from the device to the receiver?


  • #17
    eezipc
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    KERSPLAT! wrote: »
    Thanks, had been looking at the first one

    If I use this

    Can I run a cable from the aerial to it and the dish to it and then one cable from the device to the receiver?

    Hi,
    That won't work. You need two different signals from two different cables. This will be easier than you think. Just plug the satellite cable into the back of the receiver and plug in the aerial into the back of the receiver. Then run either a scart/hdmi cable from the receiver to the tv.
    Most receivers are already tuned in but more than likely you will have to retune again for your area.


  • #18
    KERSPLAT!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    eezipc wrote: »
    Hi,
    That won't work. You need two different signals from two different cables. This will be easier than you think. Just plug the satellite cable into the back of the receiver and plug in the aerial into the back of the receiver. Then run either a scart/hdmi cable from the receiver to the tv.
    Most receivers are already tuned in but more than likely you will have to retune again for your area.

    I think not falling off the roof will be the greatest difficulty :D

    Thanks, I'll hopefully get to give it a go over the weekend, will grab a coil of coax from the wholesalers tomorrow


  • #19
    hju6
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭hju6


    Lots of videos here that shows the set up required for a combo receiver

    http://www.tvtrade.ie/ferguson-ariva-150.html


  • #20
    Thurston?
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,278 ✭✭✭Thurston?


    eezipc wrote: »
    KERSPLAT! wrote: »
    If I use this

    http://www.satellite.ie/cgi-bin/ss000001.pl?PRODREF=satufhcom&NOLOGIN=1

    Can I run a cable from the aerial to it and the dish to it and then one cable from the device to the receiver?
    That won't work. You need two different signals from two different cables.

    It will work, provided all the cables are up to carrying satellite signals: 1 diplexer to combine the signals (models with weatherproof enclosure are available), & another at the receiver end of the cable to split the signals to each tuner (this one can be integrated into a wallplate).


  • #21
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,852 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    KERSPLAT! wrote: »
    Already have an alright TV so I can just hook it up to that

    Regarding the TV, does it already have a built-in Saorview/digital tuner? If it does then you won't require a combi receiver?

    What is the make and model of the TV?

    If the TV has the required tuner then a Freesat receiver might be a better satellite option with 7 day epg, digital text etc. such as this Manhattan Plaza for €94


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  • #22
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,852 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    KERSPLAT! wrote: »
    Sure I'll just use the aerial that's already up

    Did that aerial receive analogue TV3 when it was in use, if it did it should be OK for Saorview reception. If it didn't receive TV3 previously then it might need to be realigned to a different transmitter (or upgraded) as many of the old analogue transmitter sites weren't upgraded for Saorview and were switched off when analogue transmission ceased 2 years ago.

    Also if the masthead amp is still working it's possible the boosted signal can overload digital receivers, with digital reception like Saorview too much signal can be as bad as too little. I used a masthead amp before Saorview but it wasn't required when analogue was switched off so I removed it from the aerial setup.


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