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Changes @ 4fm

  • 29-10-2014 10:57am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 42


    Jim Mccabe is leaving the breakfast show and it looks like he is going to be replaced with a "breakfast crew" format. It really is a disgrace what the bai allowed happen to that radio station.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,234 ✭✭✭Fresh Pots


    Jim Mccabe is leaving the breakfast show and it looks like he is going to be replaced with a "breakfast crew" format. It really is a disgrace what the bai allowed happen to that radio station.

    Any ideas who the replacements are going to be?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    Jim Mccabe is leaving the breakfast show and it looks like he is going to be replaced with a "breakfast crew" format. It really is a disgrace what the bai allowed happen to that radio station.

    Why what was it suposed to be like?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Niall Boylan? :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,504 ✭✭✭bbability


    The music jury has decided that the station needs a change... You just never know what's going on in the background of a radio station. He's not leaving the station just moving away from Breakfast. I'm sure he's in the Guinness Book of Records for presenting almost every breakfast show on radio in Dublin. He can't be doing that much wrong with a track record like that. He was never my cup of tea but he was popular with the market share.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 549 ✭✭✭vince


    I guse damion farhley will do breakfast.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 296 ✭✭chilloutrelax


    Is the a complete schedule revamp coming?

    The station has become so cheap sounding, it makes it hard to listen, particularly on weekdays. 4fm is at it's best at weekends when they have less stuff (the technical term) as their stuff is so poor and cheap it makes the station sound so week compared to the most local of locals.
    A good start would be to remove the modern music beds when djs are talking, it's just awful and doesn't fit with the station at all. Listen up AM...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,470 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    The Niall Boylan stuff is awful. I instantly switch over while he's on. I can't understand how there's an appetite for that format for 6 hours a day every day! Or how the guy himself can listen to the troll callers for that long daily.

    Other than that, I think the station sounds generally good. Damien Farrelly has been a good addition at the weekend IMO.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,158 ✭✭✭✭hufpc8w3adnk65


    For brekkie I could see them
    Doing Suzanne kane or another female presenter and Damien Farrelly together


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,238 ✭✭✭✭Diabhal Beag


    Niall Boylan is doing that really hacky Irish radio thing of heading to a "hanuted" house where we rely on them to tell us what's going on via the radio. Can't wait to see how much worse he does it in comparison to Kennedy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,359 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    bbability wrote: »
    The music jury has decided that the station needs a change... You just never know what's going on in the background of a radio station. He's not leaving the station just moving away from Breakfast. I'm sure he's in the Guinness Book of Records for presenting almost every breakfast show on radio in Dublin. He can't be doing that much wrong with a track record like that. He was never my cup of tea but he was popular with the market share.

    At various stages of his radio career, Jim McCabe has presented weekday breakfast shows on Wicklow's East Coast Radio/East Coast FM, 98FM, Lite FM (now called Q102), Dublin's Country Mix 106.8 (now called Sunshine 106.8) and FM104. That's a lot! At one stage, he was presenting breakfast on East Coast FM and immediately after the mid-morning show on 106.8 - they were in the same building!

    Jim McCabe is only the second regular weekday breakfast presenter on 4FM since it started in February 2009 - the first was Gareth O'Callaghan.

    I wonder will a new schedule ditch the two talk shows a day with Niall Boylan and replace one with a music-driven shown, like the old days of 4FM?

    Will Gareth be moved around again to a slightly different slot and what about his Sunday love songs show?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,504 ✭✭✭bbability


    Joan Lee and Gareth on breakfast perhaps?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,158 ✭✭✭✭hufpc8w3adnk65


    bbability wrote: »
    Joan Lee and Gareth on breakfast perhaps?

    Keep gareth where he is!! He belongs on in the afternoon! Maybe give him a 2pm start tho


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 272 ✭✭gavindowd


    Its a disappointment as I always found Jim McCabe to be quite upbeat in the mornings, pretty harmless and not too 'in your face'. The station as a whole is sounding great. They've got a great weekend line-up. Can anyone here confirm if Suzanne Kane's evening show is voice-tracked? (I presume it is, as she was getting up for the breakfast show the day after - but I did hear her read out texts from listeners one night)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 Radioman44


    Jim Mccabe is leaving the breakfast show and it looks like he is going to be replaced with a "breakfast crew" format. It really is a disgrace what the bai allowed happen to that radio station.

    The BAI have a lot to answer regarding what they let Some Radio Stations get away with. One can't really blame the Radio Stations, they use every excuse to change their music policy, bend the rules, and the BAI just turn a blind eye. They don't want any station folding on their watch. Problem is, their not watching at all!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,543 ✭✭✭Claude Burgundy


    According to the press release Jim "requested" the move himself so did he jump or was he pushed. He is moving to antoher part of the daytime schedule so there will be more changes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,660 ✭✭✭Mr Snow


    Jim McCabe is taking robbie fogarty's show


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,158 ✭✭✭✭hufpc8w3adnk65


    Mr Snow wrote: »
    Jim McCabe is taking robbie fogarty's show

    Hopefully! If Robbie takes Niall Boylan early gig, Give someone new the disco night time show and have Suzanne on brekkie with Damian Farrelly


    Least that's what I'd do anyways


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 42 Longwave Listener


    Hootanany wrote: »
    Why what was it suposed to be like?

    More or less something close to an irish bbc radio 2


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,660 ✭✭✭Mr Snow


    Robbie Fogarty will be stepping down from his morning show on Classic Hits 4FM to concentrate on his management and music duties
    new breakfast show should be revealed on-air Monday morning at 8:30am.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,504 ✭✭✭bbability


    It's far from BBC Radio 2. Its more like Q102 only available in areas outside Dublin.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,691 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    bbability wrote: »
    It's far from BBC Radio 2. Its more like Q102 only available in areas outside Dublin.

    With 4FM available in dublin, there's no need for Q102 in dublin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44 Radio Freak


    I hope they cancel Niall Boylan's lunchtime show on 4fm as he has the most irritating voice on radio. I'm sure he is a nice person off the radio, but some of the content and callers that he has on is really cringe radio at its worst. Perhaps 4fm management should put him on between 10- midnight only cutting down his show by an hour. In relation to other changes within 4fm, I think the McCabe move is good as he seems to bring in the listeners according to Andy Matthews. Although he would say that wouldn't he! Would dropping the classic hits name make any difference to their future success? I don't know, I'm not a radio expert. What demographic are they trying to chase? I don't listen to 4fm very much, but when I do listen to them, their music seems to be all over the place. They keep playing rehashed oldies over and over again. With these impending schedule changes they will also need to seriously look at their music policy and possibly reposition themselves in some shape or form. They also need to introduce new radio imaging for the station. It's outdated at this stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,381 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    i would agree with removing boylan from lunch time. its no different from his night time show

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,769 ✭✭✭Infoanon


    With 4FM available in dublin, there's no need for Q102 in dublin

    4FM basically became a clone of Q102, there are subtle differences however - to copy a successful format is the norm in radio so no complaints there - that they were allowed do it is another matter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭Radio is for life


    Infoanon wrote: »
    4FM basically became a clone of Q102, there are subtle differences however - to copy a successful format is the norm in radio so no complaints there - that they were allowed do it is another matter.

    I'm curious and frustrated as to why you think the BAI should step in. What exactly are they doing that's against the original license agreement. I assume they are licensed to play music for the over 40s. When I have listened to the station I hear nothing but older songs that would appeal to over 40s. Are you suggesting they should be playing rock n roll all day or back 2 back beatles, tom Jones and the drifters. They certainly have changed over the years and it has made a huge difference to the figures and public perception of the station, particularly outside Dublin. That change was away from a very old demograph, which would be closer to lyric when they started first. I see nothing in the rules to allow them to change their position as long as they stick to the percentages of music submitted in the licence. I heard "rhythm is a dancer" the last time I tuned in if I remember rightly and that's exactly where they should be positioned.
    As for the presenters Robbie Fogerty Jim McCabe, Gareth O Callghan, Niall Boylan and more recently Damien Farrelly, they are all relevant and of an age that appeal to the target demograph. These guys have been on the game along time and to suggest they are not doing a good job would seem to be sour grapes or jealousy in some sense, although I have found this board seems full of posts that make no sense other then to have a pop at a station or a presenter just because they don't like them personally. They joys of anonymous posting I suppose. The very fact that people work in stations like these should be testiment to their abilities and I'm sure radio bosses pay no heed to the vile hatred sometimes spewed here otherwise many of the 2FM DJs would never work again, Mooney, Ray Foley, Ray Darcy and many others would never work again judging by the stuff that's said on here about them. I find most of the hate comments are directed at those who seem to do well in radio. Quite telling really!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,769 ✭✭✭Infoanon


    I'm curious and frustrated as to why you think the BAI should step in. What exactly are they doing that's against the original license agreement. I assume they are licensed to play music for the over 40s. y!

    Who mentioned the BAI steping in??

    4FM was granted its licence from the BAI on the basis of a BBC Radio 2 type programming - music/talk/specialist programming with at least 30% speech content.

    4FM , like many before it, changed/reneged on its promises - its how radio works in Ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,504 ✭✭✭bbability


    4FM did change from their original output and defaulted to safe mode. If they had stuck with the original format I believe they would have been in a really strong position today. I don't think they had a choice though. It was change format or close the doors. I preferred the original format.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,419 ✭✭✭Trebor176


    I much preferred the original format too as it was different to other stations here, and certainly refreshing. As someone who prefers the older music, it was a pleasure to listen to. Then, it all changed. I do miss some of the original presenters and shows, such as Smooth & Easy with Marian Farrell. I tolerated some shows up until fairly recently, but I rarely listen now due to more preferable music shows at certain times.

    It's going to be interesting to see how things pan out over time with these changes due to take place. I do doubt, though, that the music will change much. Some songs do not fit the "Classic" format, particularly the more modern songs played. If it's a classic hits station, classic hits is all they should be playing. For a show like Club Classics, to me, it should play similar music to what was played on The Carwash when it was on Today FM. From what I've heard of Club Classics, there are too many modern disco tracks. Not particularly classic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,660 ✭✭✭Mr Snow


    Pj Gallagher & damien farrley is takeing over the breakfast show from the 10th


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 675 ✭✭✭DT100


    The breakfast show on Classic Hits 4FM will be presented by comedian PJ Gallagher, along with former 2fm early riser Damien Farrelly!

    Another breakfast show given to comedians rather than broadcasters.There are people who wanted to be in radio,had a passion for radio,did a what they could to get into radio,and then you have comedians,and I use that title lightly,that got a little limelite,did the gigs,and got so far.Then you have the radio PD,s who started off as presenters,and when they got the big gig of programming looked at what was happening across the dial,and said,well if we cant beat them,we will join them...The reason why radio in Ieland today is gone to crap.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,381 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    i can't really be doing with breakfast radio at the best of times anyway. much rather stick on one of the london soul pirates via tunein. shame theres nothing like it here but back when i was in college the slow stuff on the storm dublin in the mornings was a treat.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 675 ✭✭✭DT100


    Breakfast in Ireland...Ian Dempsy "and da"...and gift crap..Yesterday FM.
    1 and a half Fm...Breakfast Repulsive.
    They are just National breakfast music shows,but yesterday FM musnt pay much royalties between 8 and 8.30...Jesus,thank God for the Interweb


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 42 Longwave Listener


    PJ Gallager doing prank phone calls in the morning and Niall Boylan trolling for 6 hours per day, imagine if 4fm had that schedule in their application which promised "A high quality music and speech service for mature listeners aged 45+"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,359 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh


    Mr Snow wrote: »
    Pj Gallagher & damien farrley is takeing over the breakfast show from the 10th

    That must be why these two were used as stand-in breakfast presenters on Radio Nova recently. (4FM and Radio Nova are under similar ownership.) It was a possible test-run for the more permanent gig.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭Travismccoy


    With 4FM available in dublin, there's no need for Q102 in dublin

    Are you having a complete laugh??! 4FM can only but DREAM of the share Q102 have in Dublin. Funniest post of the week though, I'll give you that much! :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,353 ✭✭✭Galway K9


    Are you having a complete laugh??! 4FM can only but DREAM of the share Q102 have in Dublin. Funniest post of the week though, I'll give you that much! :)

    Nialls show during day should be slashed and replaced with a less 'shock jockey ' wanna be presenter. Black taxi drivers at 1pm wtf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,691 ✭✭✭ford fiesta


    Are you having a complete laugh??! 4FM can only but DREAM of the share Q102 have in Dublin. Funniest post of the week though, I'll give you that much! :)

    didnt mean it in that way. point was they are similar. i could have said there is no need for 4FM in dublin with Q102 there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68 ✭✭Travismccoy


    didnt mean it in that way. point was they are similar. i could have said there is no need for 4FM in dublin with Q102 there.

    Your point would be more valid that way, yes :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 272 ✭✭gavindowd


    That must be why these two were used as stand-in breakfast presenters on Radio Nova recently. (4FM and Radio Nova are under similar ownership.) It was a possible test-run for the more permanent gig.

    That makes this Facebook comment ever-so-more ironic....

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,647 ✭✭✭channelsurfer2




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,359 ✭✭✭Declan A Walsh



    That is funny alright! Apart from the irony of what he said at that time and what is happening now, I assume he has no plans to EVER go back to RTE! As long as he doesn't slag off Q102 or Sunshine 106.8, he should be okay if he ever needs or wants to move to another station with a similar age profile!

    It is interesting that one of 4FM's original presenters Owen Larkin returned to it over the last year or so. Will he still be involved after the station's latest rejig?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26 stacybeauchamp


    Sorry to drag up this thread, but it looks like Jim is back in the early slot.

    I really like Jim, but the forced hilarity is irking me - over to Marty for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,470 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    Sorry to drag up this thread, but it looks like Jim is back in the early slot.

    I really like Jim, but the forced hilarity is irking me - over to Marty for me.

    I noticed that too. Damien and Jim have swapped slots. I'm no fan of PJ Gallagher but he definitely bounces off Jim far better than he did with Damien. Damien is a good presenter and seems a really nice guy but he's never sounded comfortable being the wacky side kick. Obviously the 4FM bosses agreed and their "official" story - that Damo didn't want to get up early anymore - is probably bs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,158 ✭✭✭✭hufpc8w3adnk65


    Sorry to drag up this thread, but it looks like Jim is back in the early slot.

    I really like Jim, but the forced hilarity is irking me - over to Marty for me.

    When did this happen?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,470 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    MrMac84 wrote: »
    When did this happen?

    Last week.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,158 ✭✭✭✭hufpc8w3adnk65


    JoeA3 wrote: »
    Last week.

    Was there any build up leading to it or how did it happen?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,470 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    MrMac84 wrote: »
    Was there any build up leading to it or how did it happen?

    None that I heard. Jim regularly filled in for Damien so I thought that's all it was until I heard them playing a promo for the "all new Damien Farrelly show".


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