Rugby residency

UnitedWeStand

If a player moves from NZ uncapped for the Cardiff Blues and has played for Cardiff for five years, but lives just across the border in England during the whole time, is residency still for the WRU as he has a contract to their rugby board? Or is it based on geographical location?

The IRB is unclear on this in its rule book.

errlloyd

I believe residency means where you actually live, not where you play.

CatFromHue

I think it's geographically based so in your case the person would be qualified for England, not Wales.

For the project players who played for Ireland it's always been 3 years after they arrived here and not 3 years after they signed for an Irish club.

Zzippy

CatFromHue wrote: »

I think it's geographically based so in your case the person would be qualified for England, not Wales.

For the project players who played for Ireland it's always been 3 years after they arrived here and not 3 years after they signed for an Irish club.

Has it not been 3 years after they first play for an Irish team? They could arrive months before they first play a game.

e.g. a player arrives in June for pre-season training, but doesn't play a game until October due to injury. 3 years later Ireland have some pre-WC warm-up matches in August. Is the player eligible for those matches, or is he only eligible from October of that year?

errlloyd

Zzippy wrote: »

Has it not been 3 years after they first play for an Irish team? They could arrive months before they first play a game.

e.g. a player arrives in June for pre-season training, but doesn't play a game until October due to injury. 3 years later Ireland have some pre-WC warm-up matches in August. Is the player eligible for those matches, or is he only eligible from October of that year?

From the day they land

Theta

Hmmm out of curiosity I read the regulations and it is some what ambiguous. It clearly states that "residency" is the place of their permanent home but later on it defines it better,

By being Resident in a country
for a period of 36 consecutive months immediately preceding the time of
playing for a Union, a Player is deemed to acquire a credible, close and
established national link with a country/Union that entitles him to
participate in sporting competitions for that Union.

In the case the OP mentions the player resides in England but he has no meaningful relationship with that country or the RFU and he doesn't reside in Wales.

Im sure it doesnt matter but it is odd.

Neil3030

Theta wrote: »

Hmmm out of curiosity I read the regulations and it is some what ambiguous. It clearly states that "residency" is the place of their permanent home but later on it defines it better,



In the case the OP mentions the player resides in England but he has no meaningful relationship with that country or the RFU and he doesn't reside in Wales.

Im sure it doesnt matter but it is odd.

Except that they define the criterion of acquiring a credible, close and
established national link with a country/Union, as being resident in that country.... "By being resident..."

Swiwi.

UnitedWeStand wrote: »

If a player moves from NZ uncapped for the Cardiff Blues and has played for Cardiff for five years, but lives just across the border in England during the whole time, is residency still for the WRU as he has a contract to their rugby board? Or is it based on geographical location?

The IRB is unclear on this in its rule book.

Trying to think of who you mean. Paul Tito is retired. Ditto for Xavier Rush & Ben Blair but they were both capped for NZ anyway. Must be missing someone. Unless your Q is purely theoretical?

CIARAN_BOYLE

Actuqlly I am more curious about a certain new Zealander that got injured in the first season of his ulster career and spent significant periods of his first season in new zealand for rest and recuperation purposes. Can he said to have been resident in Ireland