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Car Tax Transfer

  • 22-10-2014 10:43pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭


    I taxed my car for 3 months covering October to December. I'm getting a new car on Monday, can I transfer the tax over to the new car somehow or can I reclaim the tax or what happens? Its from a 1.8 to 1.6 though I doubt that makes any difference

    Thanks in advance :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,688 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    As far as I'm aware, you can only reclaim tax back if the car is end of life.
    You can also only reclaim 3 months or more so I believe in your case, you cannot get your money back


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,861 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    KERSPLAT! wrote: »
    I taxed my car for 3 months covering October to December. I'm getting a new car on Monday, can I transfer the tax over to the new car somehow or can I reclaim the tax or what happens? Its from a 1.8 to 1.6 though I doubt that makes any difference

    Thanks in advance :)

    Afraid not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,786 ✭✭✭slimjimmc


    Transfer is not possible and there are only a few circumstances where you can get a refund and only if 3 months or more is remaining on the disc.
    http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/travel_and_recreation/motoring_1/motor_tax_and_insurance/motor_tax_rates.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Ah balls, cheers anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    Just another fine example of how the tax system is in the dark ages here. No reason why you couldn't return the disk (Why we ever have disks is another point) and get a refund / credit on a by-whole-month basis. Simple to implement but such is our public service.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,786 ✭✭✭slimjimmc


    ironclaw wrote: »
    Just another fine example of how the tax system is in the dark ages here. No reason why you couldn't return the disk (Why we ever have disks is another point) and get a refund / credit on a by-whole-month basis. Simple to implement but such is our public service.
    I don't understand why you're blaming the public service for that, they can only operate within the limits of the law. If you want to assign blame then blame government who haven't enacted any law to enable such implementation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    The tax belongs to the car, as does the NCT.
    The insurance belong to the person.

    That's why it's nice to buy an old banger with almost a year's tax on it :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Pain in the arse, €120+ down the drain. Might just drive it for November, may not seem so bad then :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭Beano


    even if they did allow you to transfer the tax how would it work if the two cars had totally different tax rates?
    it just isnt practical.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Beano wrote: »
    even if they did allow you to transfer the tax how would it work if the two cars had totally different tax rates?
    it just isnt practical.

    Even if they refunded each full month. So say 2 months on a 1.8 they'd refund €120 approx. The owner is then free to use the €120 against the cost of new tax. Hardly that complex is it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 477 ✭✭arthur daly


    KERSPLAT! wrote: »
    Even if they refunded each full month. So say 2 months on a 1.8 they'd refund €120 approx. The owner is then free to use the €120 against the cost of new tax. Hardly that complex is it?

    Not for the rest of us but try explain that to a dail idiot


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 173 ✭✭swervring


    Unfortunately you can't transfer it - its for the car not the owner.
    Just on the off chance you are selling your existing car privately its more attractive with tax on it & the difference in selling price may be equivalent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    slimjimmc wrote: »
    I don't understand why you're blaming the public service for that, they can only operate within the limits of the law. If you want to assign blame then blame government who haven't enacted any law to enable such implementation.

    Blaming a 4 year government for a tax system from, probably, the 1960s is utterly pointless. By the time the g'uverment 'do something' about it, we'll just have voted the next wave of idiots in and it will be lost along with the pile of election promised and letters to Santa (Both of which carry equal credit)

    No, I blame the lads and lassies who've been sitting in the cushy jobs for years and years and year with a fine layer of dust on their Monday to Friday cheap suits. 'Its the way we've always done it and my god don't rock the boat' written in peeling paint over the door. The rest of the world can operate at a level that doesn't take years for change to be enacted. If my business took a year to change something, we'd be bankrupt.

    All it takes is a small team, some cop on and a little bit of motivation. The relevant system could be in place, lets be generous here, 2 years at most. Unfortunately, that seems impossible to achieve in this country. Oh, and then we'd have to have a tribunal about it.

    Its actually genuinely heartbreaking how we are comically inept on doing anything right in Ireland.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,361 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    ironclaw wrote: »
    Just another fine example of how the tax system is in the dark ages here. No reason why you couldn't return the disk (Why we ever have disks is another point) and get a refund / credit on a by-whole-month basis. Simple to implement but such is our public service.

    You need to talk to the Department about your issues. The public servants only operate within the confines of the legislation written.

    The senior Civil Servants are the ones who write legislation and our TD's need to get this going. Blaming the normal in the ground staff is childish. It's like me going into Topaz and ranting and each at the counter clerk about the price of petrol or Mars bars.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    In the UK, if you sell a car, you can claim back any unused tax. It's up to the new owner to look after their own tax.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    In the UK, if you sell a car, you can claim back any unused tax. It's up to the new owner to look after their own tax.

    Now, in the UK, you HAVE to claim back unpaid tax on sale. It's not transferable any more.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,361 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    And they have no tax discs either. Much cleaner windscreen.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 478 ✭✭Stella Virgo


    KERSPLAT! wrote: »
    I taxed my car for 3 months covering October to December. I'm getting a new car on Monday, can I transfer the tax over to the new car somehow or can I reclaim the tax or what happens? Its from a 1.8 to 1.6 though I doubt that makes any difference

    Thanks in advance :)
    did ya win the lotto since oct 1....:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    In the UK, if you sell a car, you can claim back any unused tax. It's up to the new owner to look after their own tax.

    Every country is different.
    In Ireland you have tax and NCT attached to the car, but insurance to the owner.
    In UK you have MOT attached to the car, but tax and insurance to the owner.
    And in Poland you have both test and insurance attached to the car. No tax. Nothing attached to the owner.

    Each setup has advantages and disadvantages.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭Beano


    KERSPLAT! wrote: »
    Even if they refunded each full month. So say 2 months on a 1.8 they'd refund €120 approx. The owner is then free to use the €120 against the cost of new tax. Hardly that complex is it?


    thats not a transfer though is it?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    Beano wrote: »
    thats not a transfer though is it?

    It isn't but it is a practical solution :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,357 ✭✭✭Beano


    KERSPLAT! wrote: »
    It isn't but it is a practical solution :)

    true enough. Not really sure how much of a problem there is though. Its not like people are taxing their car for 12 months and then selling it the next day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    I obviously don't know how hard it would be to implement but if its not difficult, why not have the option.

    Meh, I'm just pissed at losing €120 :D


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