The real cost of a CE license.

deckycoop

my own situation is that i have a rigid license that i got true work in 2010 and now i want to go forward and get my full C+E license. lessons are the easy part as they are pay the man 130yoyos for the lesson but my question relate to all the hidden charges i cant see before goin down this road. So good people of boards i ask u to fill in the blanks on my quest to get my full license.

New theory test book/CD 25
Paying for theory test.
medical. 50 euro
Cpc card and the cost of gettinG up to standard(MODULES)
cost of learner permit for C+E
Artic lessons. 130 x ???
Artic test +truck rental
PASS FIRST TIME.
medical to add C+E to license.
cost of new license.
tacograph card

please feel free to add in anyting else that might have being forgotten.

yourpics

Theory Test - not required if you already have C Licence.
But Theory Test Book can be got for free at Library

Theory test now includes part 1 of CPC and it costs 72 euro

Medical - 20 euro, doctor should not charge full amount for a simple medical
If you have more than 2 years left on current medical this will cover your provisional licence

Provisional Licence - 35 euro

8 hrs lessons plus hire of lorry for test - 600-700 euro (Deals are available on lessons + hire of lorry)

CPC 1 plus theory test - 72 euro
CPC 2 - 72 euro
Test - 120 euro
Practical CPC - 35 euro

New Licence - 35 euro
Plus another medical - 20 euro

Each CPC module - 50 euro per year

DigiCard - 60 euro but I think if you do it online its 45

deckycoop

do i need to do 4 modules for CPC as i am behind in 4 years of modules.

yourpics

Not sure to be honest,

deckycoop

thanks.. ur input was great.

donkey balls

Not meaning to rain down on your parade but if you do manage to pass the test the work out there is crap at the moment regarding pay/hours etc,Also most companies require at a minimum 1/2 years.

deckycoop

there is a haulage company down the road that are crying out for part time workers to come in and do random runs. they have 20 odd trucks and there is always a spin to dublin on the books and a few trucks lying up. im lucky enough to know them well enough to be able to ask for a job. im not lookin for a full time job. i have 1 that employs me random hours every week and if i can stop of on the way home and pick up a truck and trailer and head for the port id be done in under 4 hours and paid for 5. might only get 50 bucks but it suits me to do it and suits them to get another trailer cleared without using up a full timers hours. 3 or 4 runs a week wud make me happy

donkey balls

If you are going do what you mentioned you need to add up the total hours worked in your normal job a day/week and then add on the hours you be working doing a few shunts,Both hours combined cannot be more than 48 hours per week.

deckycoop

pm sent..

yourpics

I myself have the C (Rigid) Licence and intend to go for CE (Artic) next year but not really for work, just something I want to do and I have a huge interest in trucking.
If I was to get the odd run, it would just be a bonus!

danger_mouse_tm

YOu're better off sticking with the one company for the reasons mentioned above. All well and good if one of the jobs/trucks you're working is running on a paper card but I know from experience that it gets sloppy when it comes to downloading your card and which company is responsible for what. You're not going to look good when you call your boss from a roadside checkpoint to tell him that you only have to park up for nine hours because you were working for someone else that morning. It will be easier to get full time artic work and personally i find it way handier than messing around with rigid trucks - try and stay away from the groupage if you can. I use a great app on android called tachogaurd that has gps built in so it can measure my true work time (6 hours of stopping and starting then a 30 minute break). You WILL have to have all 5 modules of your cpc done to get a drivers card which you need to have on you as of from last September. The honeymoon period is over truckers!

deckycoop

im not with any trucking company myself. i could work a 24 hr shift and then be off for 2 or 3 days. could i not do a few runs on the days after my main job as i am only sittin on my ass doin nothin.

Silvera

danger_mouse_tm wrote: »

You WILL have to have all 5 modules of your cpc done to get a drivers card which you need to have on you as of from last September. The honeymoon period is over truckers!

I wasnt aware that this was yet the case re cpc card. Thanks for the info.

I passed my C test in 2003 and my C+E test in 2014 (I didnt have to take the cpc written or practical exams due to 'inherited rights'). I dont intend driving professionally in the forseeable future, but would like the option of doing the odd bit of driving if the chance came along. I havent done any cpc classes, and now it seems that I will have to do all 5 x modules before I can even consider any driving opportunities?!

Can I do all 5 x modules in a short time-frame, e.g. over a few months?

deckycoop

from what i gather u can do 5 cpcs on 5 different days in how ever quick u want to.. each module takes up a day and each of the 5 modules are ran in a different area every few days.

http://cpc.ie/DRIVER_CPC_SCHEDULE

donkey balls

There are lots of places in Dublin anyway that do CPC training mid week and at weekends €50 a module is the norm.

btb

you will also have to explain to the RSA CPC unit why you did all 5 modules together and not 1 per year before they will issue a CPC card.

Silvera

btb wrote: »

you will also have to explain to the RSA CPC unit why you did all 5 modules together and not 1 per year before they will issue a CPC card.

Is it a big deal with them when ppl do all 5 x modules together (or within a few months apart)? Surely it doesnt matter once the modules are completed??

donkey balls

Silvera wrote: »

Is it a big deal with them when ppl do all 5 x modules together (or within a few months apart)? Surely it doesnt matter once the modules are completed??

It's no big deal if someone chooses to do all five modules in a year, The requirements are that one module should be completed before 10th september every year.
This applies to both bus & truck drivers currently driving for a living, Take myself as an example I don't drive for a living anymore so there is no legal requirements for me to do a CPC module every year.
But if I ever decided to go driving on a full time basis I would need to complete what ever modules needed before going on the road.

Del2005

donkey balls wrote: »

It's no big deal if someone chooses to do all five modules in a year, The requirements are that one module should be completed before 10th september every year.
This applies to both bus & truck drivers currently driving for a living, Take myself as an example I don't drive for a living anymore so there is no legal requirements for me to do a CPC module every year.
But if I ever decided to go driving on a full time basis I would need to complete what ever modules needed before going on the road.

RSA only allow one per annum if you're professional, other countries allowed them in batches, it's in this pdf Part 4, section 12(3). If you're not driving and want to then you need to have the 5( or 6 for D) done before they'll let you out.

donkey balls

When the CPC came in countries had options on what way to implement the rules, The UK for instance has rules that means a driver can sit all the modules in one go.
They also include ADR training as a module completed along with anti roll over training/defensive driving.
Were as the RSA won't include these courses, I know a lad who didn't have any CPC done and was going back driving all he did was do what modules that are applicable to him.
He contasted the RSA and explained his situation and now he is back driving well over a year.

Silvera

donkey balls wrote: »

When the CPC came in countries had options on what way to implement the rules, The UK for instance has rules that means a driver can sit all the modules in one go.
They also include ADR training as a module completed along with anti roll over training/defensive driving.
Were as the RSA won't include these courses, I know a lad who didn't have any CPC done and was going back driving all he did was do what modules that are applicable to him.
He contasted the RSA and explained his situation and now he is back driving well over a year.

Thats very interesting.
Typical that the RSA doesnt include such a valuable section as 'defensive driving'?! I passed my Advanced Driving Course (Car) in 2008 and it a vital part of the course.

So if I ever decide to drive professionally I just need to -

- Complete Module 1 (straight away)
- I can then drive professionally
- Complete subsequent modules over the following years

- i.e. I dont need to have the actual CPC card until year 5 ???

donkey balls

If you ever decide to drive for a living you must hold a drivers CPC card and have sat what ever modules that need to be completed there are no rules regarding doing them in sequence.

Silvera

donkey balls wrote: »

If you ever decide to drive for a living you must hold a drivers CPC card and have sat what ever modules that need to be completed there are no rules regarding doing them in sequence.

Okayy....just to confirm...

- To get a CPC card I obviously will have to complete all 5 x modules? Yes?
- I can do all 5 x modules in any order...and over any time period (e.g. do all 5 x modules within a few months)?

donkey balls

Silvera wrote: »

Okayy....just to confirm...

- To get a CPC card I obviously will have to complete all 5 x modules? Yes?
- I can do all 5 x modules in any order...and over any time period (e.g. do all 5 x modules within a few months)?

If you decided to go driving next week there is nothing stopping you from doing all five modules one after the other within a week or over a few months,When I did my initial CPC training I think module 2 was the first one that I did.
You would also need a drivers digi card,There is also a lot of drivers that have left the profession or are going to,The reason being the hours involved but more so the wages they get paid if these lads ever decide to go back driving they will just have to complete what ever modules they need.

westdub

Silvera wrote: »

Okayy....just to confirm...

- To get a CPC card I obviously will have to complete all 5 x modules? Yes?
- I can do all 5 x modules in any order...and over any time period (e.g. do all 5 x modules within a few months)?

You should have a read here>> http://www.rsa.ie/en/RSA/Professional-Drivers/Driver-Hours/Getting-your-CPC/

Silvera

westdub wrote: »

You should have a read here>> http://www.rsa.ie/en/RSA/Professional-Drivers/Driver-Hours/Getting-your-CPC/

Thanks, I'm aware of that page. However it's not very clear regarding somebody in my position getting on the road professionally.

westdub

Silvera wrote: »

Thanks, I'm aware of that page. However it's not very clear regarding somebody in my position getting on the road professionally.

Until September this year anyone with a HGV license before September 2009 could do a CPC course each year and still hold on to their rights to have a CPC, I think the last date to do this was was the 10th of September, then you were issued your CPC Card.

However as it's now law that you must carry your CPC card while driving professionally so anyone that wants to drive for a living must do the 35 hours of CPC training before they can apply for their card and only when they get the card can they drive on the road.

A Driver CPC Qualification Card is not a driving licence. In order to drive a truck or bus you must:

• be the holder of a current valid driving licence for the category of vehicle you are driving, and
• be the holder of a current valid driver’s CPC card for the category of vehicle you are driving professionally.

Hope this makes sense to you...

Silvera

Thanks for the info.

I passed my C test in 2003 (C+E in 2014) so it seems I must do the 35 hours (before driving) if I ever want to drive a Rigid or Rigid+Trailer professionally .

Has anybody here completed the 35 x CPC hours in a short time-period e.g. a few weeks?

donkey balls

I think a few posts back I might have mentioned about a former work colleague of mine had only done 1 module,Prior to him going back driving on a professional basis he needed to complete the 2 modules.
Now if someone was to stop driving on a professional basis just say for six years before going back to drive they would just need to do the 5 modules and obtain the CPC card which is like the driver digi card.