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Tubular tyres

  • 20-10-2014 3:07pm
    #1
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,516 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Getting a set of wheels with tubular rims, never used them before. Want to get decent tyres but what are the recommendations, looking for a pair that will last a season of commuting and racing next year.

    What should I be on the look out for, my clinchers of choice the last year have been Conti GP4000S.

    Anyone here using tubs.


Comments

  • #2
    Raam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,318 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    You want to commute on tubs?


  • #3
    Craig06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭Craig06


    I use gatorskin sprinters to race in. Lovely tubular and very grippy at a half decent price.


  • #4
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,516 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Raam wrote: »
    You want to commute on tubs?

    I want to race on the tubs but i may occasionally be commuting on them as I only have my race biek and my track bike and no spare wheels for either.

    Are their any downsides to racing on tubs?


  • #5
    Beasty
    Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,393 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    CramCycle wrote: »
    I want to race on the tubs but i may occasionally be commuting on them as I only have my race biek and my track bike and no spare wheels for either.

    Are their any downsides to racing on tubs?

    Only downside is punctures which is possibly more of an issue when commuting. I just use them on the track and for TTs. Only times I punctured was on the turbo warming up at Sundrive and and 8km walk from the car in a 50 km TT....


  • #6
    Lumen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,218 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Beasty wrote: »
    Only downside is punctures which is possibly more of an issue when commuting. I just use them on the track and for TTs. Only times I punctured was on the turbo warming up at Sundrive and and 8km walk from the car in a 50 km TT....
    TTs are a particular type of stupid though. Once you've donned a pocketless skinsuit and removed all the unaerodynamic attachments that make your bike repairable you're going to be screwed with a puncture (or any other mechanical failure) even on clinchers.

    In any case, aren't clinchers faster rolling for TTs?


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  • #7
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,516 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Lumen wrote: »
    In any case, aren't clinchers faster rolling for TTs?

    I have no experience with tubs, it's just a set of wheels I am getting have tubular rims and I won't be swapping them out anytime soon. Just wondering should I just leave them and save for clinchers or are they good for racing compared to modern clinchers. Won't be doing any TTs on them, just good auld fashioned A4 racing next year.


  • #8
    Raam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,318 ✭✭✭✭Raam


    Keep the clinchers and get the tubs. Problem solved.


  • #9
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,516 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Raam wrote: »
    Keep the clinchers and get the tubs. Problem solved.

    Currently my road bike has no wheels at all, hence track bike all the time.


  • #10
    Hunterbiker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭Hunterbiker


    Cue standard response:
    Sounds like a reason to buy a new bike.
    (Sorry...)


  • #11
    lennymc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,460 ✭✭✭lennymc


    I have the gatorskin sprinters and the gp4000s on two different sets of tubs. The gatorskins are nice to race on, the gp4000s feel faster, but that could be my imagination. Both seem to be a good tyre. I like the extra puncture protection of the gatorskins, and havent noticed any issues in the wet.


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  • #12
    Hunterbiker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭Hunterbiker


    In seriousness commuting on tubs sounds like a potential nightmare in the event of a flat. I have no experience using tubs but I do know its not a quick fix so if you haven't got recourse to a set of wheela devoted to tubs and one to clinchers (for the commute) surely the cons will outweigh the pros?


  • #13
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,516 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Hunterbiker wrote: »
    In seriousness commuting on tubs sounds like a potential nightmare in the event of a flat. I have no experience using tubs but I do know its not a quick fix so if you haven't got recourse to a set of wheela devoted to tubs and one to clinchers (for the commute) surely the cons will outweigh the pros?

    TBH I should not have mentioned the commuting at all, it will be a rare event (EDIT: particularly after all the comments here) and should not have been mentioned.

    I will mainly be using my track bike with clinchers for commuting.

    What are the cons in terms of racing?


  • #14
    Craig06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 430 ✭✭Craig06


    I can't see any cons tbh. If you puncture in a race unless you have a team car with a spare wheel you're never gonna get back on. Cornering on tubs is amazing and also have a lower rolling resistance.


  • #15
    Lumen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,218 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    CramCycle wrote: »
    What are the cons in terms of racing?
    I rotate race tyres on to my commuter when they get even slightly worn. It significantly reduces the chances of puncturing in a race (but not as much as not turning up, which is my current M/O).

    Can't do that with tubs.


  • #16
    Harrybelafonte
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,450 ✭✭✭Harrybelafonte


    If the racing you mention is going to be on Sundrive, the major hassle is still puncturing. It's why no-one uses tubs for training there, except stupid old me of course. Conti Sprinters are what I use there anyway and they seem to have held up ok, bar a few massive gouges (never ride from the clubhouse to the track) on both sets of wheels.


  • #17
    Tomred13
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 290 ✭✭Tomred13


    CramCycle wrote: »
    Getting a set of wheels with tubular rims, never used them before. Want to get decent tyres but what are the recommendations, looking for a pair that will last a season of commuting and racing next year.

    What should I be on the look out for, my clinchers of choice the last year have been Conti GP4000S.

    Anyone here using tubs.

    Hi CramCycle

    Ive been using vittorias corsa cx 3 for the last few years with no problems. there a grippy, durable tub and easy to fit as there semi-glued. The CSS has them!


  • #18
    kumate_champ07
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,150 ✭✭✭kumate_champ07


    the gp4000s tubulars cant be repaired, 1 bit of bad luck and theyre in the bin.

    also if youre racing at sundrive on tubulars you'll need to glue them rather than use tub tape, and it takes 24hrs to safely dry so out of action if you get a puncture(a spare wheel is needed at the track)


  • #19
    nak
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,538 ✭✭✭nak


    Harrybelafonte wrote: »
    If the racing you mention is going to be on Sundrive, the major hassle is still puncturing. It's why no-one uses tubs for training there, except stupid old me of course. Conti Sprinters are what I use there anyway and they seem to have held up ok, bar a few massive gouges (never ride from the clubhouse to the track) on both sets of wheels.

    I use them too, Vittoria Evo Corsas, have to ride to and from the track, not a mark on them. Always carry sealant.


  • #20
    Harrybelafonte
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,450 ✭✭✭Harrybelafonte


    nak wrote: »
    I use them too, Vittoria Evo Corsas, have to ride to and from the track, not a mark on them. Always carry sealant.

    Really? That's awesome. I went to get on one day and found a lump of glass still stuck in the tyre. Some of the early weekend sessions can be glassy due to partying in the park the night before.
    Then again I got all this year and half last year from them.


  • #21
    nak
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,538 ✭✭✭nak


    Harrybelafonte wrote: »
    Really? That's awesome. I went to get on one day and found a lump of glass still stuck in the tyre. Some of the early weekend sessions can be glassy due to partying in the park the night before.
    Then again I got all this year and half last year from them.

    Yep, have had a few flats from glass with clinchers over the years. Mine had done a good few kms on the road before they went on the track bike.


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