Dark scour from beef bull

ally k

Noticed a 16 month beef bull this evening in the pen with very runny scour it's jet black and it smells awful ...he not eating but in good form and not dull they are on 6 kg of meal and eating dryish good quality round bale silage ..does anybody think it's a stomach upset or something else ..i put some stomach powders in him and large tub of natural yogurt this eve any help appreciated ...

Kovu

Vet. Vet now if it's looks to be black.

epfff

Ulser
Blacker it is the further up his channel it is
Reder or blooder it is easier it is to cure
Pm me for legal witch doctor stuff although if its as black and smelly as you are saying factory monday morning

smokey-fitz

Acidosis maybe? Silage and meal may be to acidic. Im no expert tho so maybe someone else knows more. Get the vet out in the morning if your not happy with him

micky mouse

stomach fluke maybe!

orm0nd

micky mouse wrote: »

stomach fluke maybe!

+1

I had 1 with exact same symptoms as op's a few weeks ago

dung sample analysis showed presence of rumen fluke eggs

a course of marbocyl and bimadine got him sorted

ally k

Never thought of rumen fluke they were well dosed through the grazing season but with dosing stuff that contained liver fluke kill ..jagged him with 10% marbocyl this eve and giv him 2 stimulex powders and large tub of natural yogurt ..hope he be still living in morn

tanko

ally k wrote: »

Never thought of rumen fluke they were well dosed through the grazing season but with dosing stuff that contained liver fluke kill ..jagged him with 10% marbocyl this eve and giv him 2 stimulex powders and large tub of natural yogurt ..hope he be still living in morn

Is that what your vet told you to give him?

ally k

Talked to vet briefly she said to give him the powders for three days and if no better tomorrow she call out and see for herself they were flat out today reading tb tests so lets see what happens ...thanks for the replies ..

The man in red and black

How did he make out? Hope he made it through the night. I'd look to get a vet out to see him ASAP in case you would go to the effort of a blood transfusion. Black stool is a bad sign of bleeding high up in the gut as pointed out above. Given the amount of meal he's on and a growing bull you'd be worried about abomasal ulcers. Could be other things too, hard to know without seeing him but worrying what you're describing.
Best of luck!

larrymiller

Flat 7up!

orm0nd

any news ally ?

The man in red and black wrote: »

How did he make out? Hope he made it through the night. I'd look to get a vet out to see him ASAP in case you would go to the effort of a blood transfusion. Black stool is a bad sign of bleeding high up in the gut as pointed out above. Given the amount of meal he's on and a growing bull you'd be worried about abomasal ulcers. Could be other things too, hard to know without seeing him but worrying what you're describing.
Best of luck!

would the presence of a foul smell suggest anything ? just thinking over something my own vet mentioned

whelan2

micky mouse wrote: »

stomach fluke maybe!

i wouldnt give zanil if the scour is dark, it would upset the stomach even more, ring vet again

onyerbikepat

Bad smell to me would suggest Stomach Fluke, if no bad smell I would be thinking Coccidiosis, but I'd only be guessing - Give the Vet a call.

ally k

Well he has made it through the nite and is looking not bad at all but the jet black scour still running out of him and it stinks can smell before going into the shed ...Vet comin out to hav a look will update later...

orm0nd

onyerbikepat wrote: »

Bad smell to me would suggest Stomach Fluke, if no bad smell I would be thinking Coccidiosis, but I'd only be guessing - Give the Vet a call.

that concurs with my vet said , body temp normal as well, she tubed about 5 gals of fluids into him and said it vital to do so, also as mentioned didn't dose with zanil for a few days
however this may not be the cause in op's case , important to get early diagnosis

_Brian

Good decision to get vet out.

ally k

Well vet was out and said bad ulcer in stomach treating him with keelin powders flunixin and marbocyl 10% also said to increase acid buff in meal too ...still not eating much but vet is hopeful of full recovery :-)

The man in red and black

orm0nd wrote: »

any news ally ?






would the presence of a foul smell suggest anything ? just thinking over something my own vet mentioned

I wouldn't tend to read into a foul smell too much in terms of a specific diagnosis, it's never a good sign but can be associated with different conditions as we've seen here with fluke and ulcers seeming to have caused it in different animals.