Hypothetical SORD question

corktina

What would you do and what are your liabilities if someone took your SORD car (with no NCT) out on the road without permission ? (almost certainly uninsured too....hypothetically)

fmcg_scribe

The relevant FAQ:
http://www.environ.ie/en/LocalGovernment/MotorTax/QA-DeclaringaVehicleOffTheRoad/

However, your question is an "edge case" not catered for by the FAQ - although Q15 is not irrelevant to your question.

Are you asking about what happens if a thief steals your car or if a friend or relative takes your car on to a public road without your permission?

Either way, so long as you can prove that you were not in the car at the time, I suppose that you would be in the clear unless perhaps the car was involved in an accident and the issue of insurance was raised.

corktina

Relative. I wasn't in the country (hypothetically of course)

fmcg_scribe

Problem solved. I suppose that the Gardai can't go to town on you if you present travel documents to support your alibi.

Did anything "bad" happen while the car was being drive by your relative?

corktina

Hard to say...depends how it was driven I guess,looks OK , just the dirt gives the game away...was spotless

corktina

corktina wrote: »

What would you do and what are your liabilities if someone took your SORD car (with no NCT) out on the road without permission ? (almost certainly uninsured too....hypothetically)

Interesting.

If you do not intend on reporting the event than you are not considering the car as been stolen or taken illegally.

The car was used on the road before the period specified in the declaration expired so the correct thing to do would be to tax it for the minimum duration possible and than go again with another declaration before that tax expires.

We all know you won't do that so hopefully we won't have to endure the holier than thou posts regarding motor tax from yourself going forward

All hypothetical of course.

Bio Mech

corktina wrote: »

What would you do and what are your liabilities if someone took your SORD car (with no NCT) out on the road without permission ? (almost certainly uninsured too....hypothetically)

Hides the keys next time, hypothetically.

corktina

Augeo wrote: »

Interesting.

If you do not intend on reporting the event than you are not considering the car as been stolen or taken illegally.

The car was used on the road before the period specified in the declaration expired so the correct thing to do would be to tax it for the minimum duration possible and than go again with another declaration before that tax expires.

We all know you won't do that so hopefully we won't have to endure the holier than thou posts regarding motor tax from yourself going forward

All hypothetical of course.

thanks for that....I am reporting it as it happens...just want to know what consequences might be that I haven't considered.

corktina

corktina wrote: »

thanks for that....I am reporting it as it happens...just want to know what consequences might be that I haven't considered.

lol

I was sort of pulling your leg considering the hypothetical reference.

I would be very slow to report such a thing as driving without insurance is serious, I'm not sure can anything come of it as the driver wasn't caught red handed so to speak.

If anything arrives in the post by way of speeding fines etc you can prove it wasn't you and than make the decision on reporting etc.

I wouldn't now, unless it's not immediate family and they are a toe rag.

fmcg_scribe

corktina wrote: »

thanks for that....I am reporting it as it happens...just want to know what consequences might be that I haven't considered.

Good for you.

The question you raised is not uninteresting and was probably worth a brief discussion here.

However, there are far too many discussions in this forum about non-payment of motor tax, out of date NCT, and no car insurance. I suspect that a lot of regulars on the forum are getting tired of such discussions.

Perhaps a Motors sub-forum should be created to handle all those discussions to keep them off the main Motors forum?

corktina

immediate family and also toerag regrettably. Actually have evidence too in the form of a dated receipt from a store 20 miles away we never use

corktina

corktina wrote: »

immediate family and also toerag regrettably..

They sometimes turn out ok, I know chaps in their 40s who were considered to be lost causes in their teens and early 20s, not by their folks admittedly.

Bio Mech

Its a tough call on reporting them. I am not so sure I would. You don't know exactly when it happened, that it happened for sure, who did it. I know you do in your heart but not in the legal sense. The Gardai could do nothing about it really without a witness or some proof. If you do report it it might just end up causing hassle for your self.

corktina

Oh I do know and I do have evidence....point taken though