Emirates Quarantines in Boston

smurfjed

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-13/emirates-flight-quarantined-bostons-logan-airport-over-ebola-scare-live-webcast

With the returning Hajj movement and the infamous Hajj flu, this is going to get crazy.

roundymac

Should we be getting worried! after all I presume some Irish residents are doing Haj.

Milly33

I knew I heard something about this. Feel sorry for the people on board if this is just a scare as such it is a pretty bad one to go through.

kona

The hell is hajj flu?

Yamanoto

kona wrote: »

The hell is hajj flu?

I'm guessing it's a localised outbreak among pilgrims to Mecca, due to sheer numbers in close proximity etc.

In fairness we have to do something before this becomes a worldwide pandemic.

ProfessorPlum

There's also usually an outbreak of meningitis there too, although I think they made vaccination mandatory a few years ago (maybe for flu too).

These Ebola scares are going to cause all sorts of trouble though and I can't see any end to it any time soon.

smurfjed

meningitis

Its a mandatory vaccination.

flu

Not required.

basill

The solution seems quite simple but as usual the tree huggers rule the roost and it will be seen as denying people their rights rather than fulfilling ours to live a long and happy life.....

As an overall rule don't let people leave the affected countries/areas. Anyone that does need to leave must go to a designated UN run quarantine centre and be passed clear of the disease. Only then with your certificate in your hand can you leave.

The whole ad hoc approach to testing in certain airports is fanciful as is the Irish approach to dealing with the problem which is essentially after the horse has bolted. By the time an infected person has spread it across the aircraft then hopped off and mixed with potentially hundreds of pax in an airport it is to late. It will spread exponentially like the plague.

History is a wonderful thing. Shame the politicians don't take heed.

Growler!!!

http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/transmission/

I'll just leave this up here. It contains facts about the transmission of the disease.

Cookiemunster

basill wrote: »

The solution seems quite simple but as usual the tree huggers rule the roost and it will be seen as denying people their rights rather than fulfilling ours to live a long and happy life.....

As an overall rule don't let people leave the affected countries/areas. Anyone that does need to leave must go to a designated UN run quarantine centre and be passed clear of the disease. Only then with your certificate in your hand can you leave.

The whole ad hoc approach to testing in certain airports is fanciful as is the Irish approach to dealing with the problem which is essentially after the horse has bolted. By the time an infected person has spread it across the aircraft then hopped off and mixed with potentially hundreds of pax in an airport it is to late. It will spread exponentially like the plague.

History is a wonderful thing. Shame the politicians don't take heed.

It's spread by the exchange of bodily fluids and sometimes by touch. It's not airborne so one passenger won't infect the whole flight.

Edit: I missed growlers post. But verifies what I've said.

roundymac

basill wrote: »

The whole ad hoc approach to testing in certain airports is fanciful as is the Irish approach to dealing with the problem which is essentially after the horse has bolted. By the time an infected person has spread it across the aircraft then hopped off and mixed with potentially hundreds of pax in an airport it is to late. It will spread exponentially like the plague.

History is a wonderful thing. Shame the politicians don't take heed.

A bit like the late Noel Davern's comment of a "ring of steel" around our ports and airports when the foot&mouth was discovered in the UK. Two weeks later Bertie had to stand up in the Dail and announce we had it.

basill

It's spread by the exchange of bodily fluids and sometimes by touch

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Cough cough...Wee wee on toilet seats. Next person cough cough....Then we get our multiplication tables out and go exponential. On just about every flight we do the first aid kit and/or bio hazard kid is out. Down the back fast asleep or engrossed in the IFE you probably have no idea the amount of people that are vomiting on the flight.

If its contained over there then it ain't over here. Simples ain't it. But hey if you want to pay a tenner "Ebola fee" to run through an airport scanner then go for it. Meanwhile the disease will march on.

Growler!!!

I hope you're not suggesting that your cabin crew are not carrying out the correct procedures from SEP training. Protective gloves are worn if bio hazard kit is used. The bio hazard material is put in a bag and sealed. Then that bag is placed inside another along with the gloves. At no time is the material touched by the naked hand!

Yes, this is a very serious threat but using procedures already in place for communicable diseases will stop its spread.

Hysteria and hyperbole spread faster though.

ProfessorPlum

While I think any further cases are unlikely (if she wasn't symptomatic as reported), if this does go any further we might as well all stay home.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102078863

Tabnabs

Cough, cough, sneeze - nobody leaves the plane

Air France Flight Grounded in Madrid Over Suspected Ebola Virus Case
Passenger on the Flight Showed Symptoms of Ebola, Including Shaking, an Official Said

http://online.wsj.com/articles/air-france-flight-grounded-in-madrid-over-suspected-ebola-virus-case-1413462553?mod=e2tw

basill

Where did I mention cabin crew. Talk about heading off on a tangent. There are many ways of pax coming into contact with something nasty before a ccm is notified and/or finds it themselves on a check gowns up and follows the sep procedures. And if you think that the current regulatory approved procedures can stop a virus from spreading on an aircraft then you are dillusional.