Beef Shorthorn

Base price

I am toying with the idea of buying a pbr heifer/in calf heifer. I have a few nice weanlings (double suckling cows) to sell after the herd test, presuming that goes ok and would use the proceeds from their sale to buy a heifer.
I have bred pb BA in the past but am now looking for a breed that is smaller and easier handled as I get on in the years and suits the land that I have in Longford.
I was also thinking of Dexters but I reckon that they are more a niche market.
I have always liked Shorthorns and had some brilliant SHxBA suckler cows in the past.
Basically I would like to get back into pedigrees at a level that I can manage myself and I think Shorthorns might suit me. Any advice would be appreciated especially when it comes to bloodlines or those to stay away from, recommended breeders, approximate prices etc.
Or am I off my head - should I reinvest my money in some nice HEx/AAx bull calves.

Miname

Base price wrote: »

I am toying with the idea of buying a pbr heifer/in calf heifer. I have a few nice weanlings (double suckling cows) to sell after the herd test, presuming that goes ok and would use the proceeds from their sale to buy a heifer.
I have bred pb BA in the past but am now looking for a breed that is smaller and easier handled as I get on in the years and suits the land that I have in Longford.
I was also thinking of Dexters but I reckon that they are more a niche market.
I have always liked Shorthorns and had some brilliant SHxBA suckler cows in the past.
Basically I would like to get back into pedigrees at a level that I can manage myself and I think Shorthorns might suit me. Any advice would be appreciated especially when it comes to bloodlines or those to stay away from, recommended breeders, approximate prices etc.
Or am I off my head - should I reinvest my money in some nice HEx/AAx bull calves.

Why go purebred? Shorthorn really sell better as a cross. Bulls can be hard sold but heifers do well. I've 8 nice replacement limos I'm giving shorthorn to in feb/mar next year. Hoping for heifers.

Base price

Miname wrote: »

Why go purebred? Shorthorn really sell better as a cross. Bulls can be hard sold but heifers do well. I've 8 nice replacement limos I'm giving shorthorn to in feb/mar next year. Hoping for heifers.

I would like to get back into breeding again just for personal interest/enjoyment.
I understand what you are saying about crosses but I have no problem feeding on and killing bulls.
OH and I rear and feed cattle for the factory so a pb SH bull/bullock would just go into the mix.

Future Farmer

Base price wrote: »

I am toying with the idea of buying a pbr heifer/in calf heifer. I have a few nice weanlings (double suckling cows) to sell after the herd test, presuming that goes ok and would use the proceeds from their sale to buy a heifer.
I have bred pb BA in the past but am now looking for a breed that is smaller and easier handled as I get on in the years and suits the land that I have in Longford.
I was also thinking of Dexters but I reckon that they are more a niche market.
I have always liked Shorthorns and had some brilliant SHxBA suckler cows in the past.
Basically I would like to get back into pedigrees at a level that I can manage myself and I think Shorthorns might suit me. Any advice would be appreciated especially when it comes to bloodlines or those to stay away from, recommended breeders, approximate prices etc.
Or am I off my head - should I reinvest my money in some nice HEx/AAx bull calves.

Hi Base Price,

SH make lovely stock absolutely not denying it

BUT

If I was you I would go for Angus' for one reason & one reason only - Target Market - Dairy Farmers. Breed easy calving Angus' (with a few other targets - like short gestation, daughter milk & daughter calving ability)

If you want use SH on the AA - you'll have Blue Greys.....

on the river

Miname wrote: »

Why go purebred? Shorthorn really sell better as a cross. Bulls can be hard sold but heifers do well. I've 8 nice replacement limos I'm giving shorthorn to in feb/mar next year. Hoping for heifers.

I agree Shorthorn viable option is crossing with other breeds.
Shorthorn make great cows and mothers.

You could breed on the side. Maybe buy one shorthorn heifer off
a quality breeder, use AI and start.

The Flatley family in kilkelly Mayo are genuine breeders.

if you want breeders that I had good experience with pm me and provide
the necessary contact info:)

Creaga Dice, Kilkelly Major are good blood lines to follow.

on the river

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=92553661
discussed about the breed a few days ago

towzer2010

on the river wrote: »

if you want breeders that I had good experience with pm me and provide
the necessary contact info:)

Creaga Dice, Kilkelly Major are good blood lines to follow.

Have you any out of Cregga Dice?

He went from 4 stars in April 13 to 1 star on the latest maternal list for some reason.

on the river

towzer2010 wrote: »

Have you any out of Cregga Dice?

He went from 4 stars in April 13 to 1 star on the latest maternal list for some reason.

not enough off spring to judge , also Canadian bloodlines dominating.

Base price

I have decided to revert to the breed that I know best, all be it 10 years ago.
I have talked to a old friend (breeder) who has some of my original bloodlines and he is willing to sell me an in calf or maiden heifer.
All I need to do now is inform OH and get him on board :eek:

Bullocks

Base price wrote: »

I have decided to revert to the breed that I know best, all be it 10 years ago.
I have talked to a old friend (breeder) who has some of my original bloodlines and he is willing to sell me an in calf or maiden heifer.
All I need to do now is inform OH and get him on board :eek:

Easier ask forgiveness than permission .
I know a girl with a large suckler herd of charlaois and wanted to try a few speckled park on them but the husband wouldn't hear of it . When they were getting the AI man if the husband wasn't around she would use one or two SP unknown to him . I think she has two heifers ready for the bull now !
Good luck with them

Base price

Bullocks wrote: »

Easier ask forgiveness than permission .
I know a girl with a large suckler herd of charlaois and wanted to try a few speckled park on them but the husband wouldn't hear of it . When they were getting the AI man if the husband wasn't around she would use one or two SP unknown to him . I think she has two heifers ready for the bull now !
Good luck with them

It is a bit complicated here, as I have my bit of land and he has more substantial acreage that we run as one enterprise.
HOWEVER, there is only one double bed in the house

Donnelly24

If you like the shorthorn breed go with them, no point going with a breed your not particularly fond of. You say your from Longford ?? There's a breeder of shorthorns on the Cavan /Longford border Grousehall shorthorn which have being breeding them for as long I remember, might be worth contacting if your were serious about breeding /showing.

Base price

Donnelly24 wrote: »

If you like the shorthorn breed go with them, no point going with a breed your not particularly fond of. You say your from Longford ?? There's a breeder of shorthorns on the Cavan /Longford border Grousehall shorthorn which have being breeding them for as long I remember, might be worth contacting if your were serious about breeding /showing.

Thanks for that. Will check them out in the New Year.

Donnelly24

No problem, I can get you the breeders number from a friend of you private message me . There a lovely breed best of luck .