Firebird heatpac 70 90

Wearb

Was working on a sooted up heatpac this evening. In spite of having all other settings correct ie o2 co2 xcess air ect., i could not get co below 114 ppm. the bottom baffle was slightly warped, and I moved it to second from top after cleaning. I have managed on lots of occasions to set up boilers with a slightly warped baffle.

I tried different O2 (co2) amounts but never got below 114ppm
It got too late to try a different nozzle (I have the recommended .65 80H) and I am going back at it tomorrow.
Could the small amounts of residual soot be causing the high CO? Should I leave it running like that for a few days and then return to check it?
Any other suggestions?

DGOBS

Yes too the small amounts of soot, and the residue on the boiler surfaces, run it for about 30-40 minutes monitoring the CO, you should see it slowly reducing. I would usually pop back an evening or 2 later just for a final tune-up and it would always be clear.

Wearb

DGOBS wrote: »

Yes too the small amounts of soot, and the residue on the boiler surfaces, run it for about 30-40 minutes monitoring the CO, you should see it slowly reducing. I would usually pop back an evening or 2 later just for a final tune-up and it would always be clear.

Thanks. That's is reassuring. I will do just that. Luckily its only 20 minutes away.

scudo2

Wearb wrote: »

Thanks. That's is reassuring. I will do just that. Luckily its only 20 minutes away.

+1 with DGOBS
Especially if its an oiley soot.

Give it slightly excess air and call back next day.
Sometimes takes a while to clear, so I always give it a day min.

Dtp1979

And let us know how you got on too

Wearb

Dtp1979 wrote: »

And let us know how you got on too

I also like to hear what happens in the end. So remind me if I forget.

jimf

Wearb wrote: »

I also like to hear what happens in the end. So remind me if I forget.

don't worry we wont forget :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

Wearb

jimf wrote: »

don't worry we wont forget :pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac::pac:

Dont know about the "we", but I certainly know somebody that has a memory like an elephant.

jimf

Wearb wrote: »

Dont know about the "we", but I certainly know somebody that has a memory like an elephant.

that's about the only part of me that works properly these days :P

agusta

An experienced oil guy asked a question similar to your question when i was doing the oftec oil course.He was resitting the oftec exams after 5 years because he does a lot of county council work.The lectuer FB said if you have checked everything else then the fault is the nozzle because a small percentage of new nozzles are faulty

DGOBS

I have had bad nozzles, had a box of 10 0.6/H one time and the whole box was dud (and had mixed them in my nozzle box..grrrr)
But usually find bad new nozzles are more to with the person handling them than the nozzle

Wearb

I left the boiler running for nearly an hour and retested. There was a big improvement, but it was still 73 ppm (down from 114) and not falling. I took out the burner an noticed a little soot on the burner head (see pic). I changed the nozzle to a .65 80S. Fired her up and co now reading 21ppm. I have marked the nozzle that I took out and will try it next time that particular nozzle is required to see if it was faulty.



Thank you all for your help.

Dtp1979

Wearb wrote: »

I left the boiler running for nearly an hour and retested. There was a big improvement, but it was still 73 ppm (down from 114) and not falling. I took out the burner an noticed a little soot on the burner head (see pic). I changed the nozzle to a .65 80S. Fired her up and co now reading 21ppm. I have marked the nozzle that I took out and will try it next time that particular nozzle is required to see if it was faulty.



Thank you all for your help.

Hope you bought some of that hand cleaner

jimf

Dtp1979 wrote: »

Hope you bought some of that hand cleaner

+1 hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Wearb

Hadn't been serviced for 8 years. It was the second worse one I ever worked on. Luckily I had (and have) lots of that hand cleaner. Even then there was soot everywhere. Even after washing my hands, if I touched my clothes or hair they were black again. Straight home, clothes into washing machine and me into shower with a warning to clean it after use.
Really you would need to charge an extra €50 for such boilers. Next time I see one like that, I am going to say that to the owner and he can like it or lump it.

scudo2

Wearb wrote: »

Hadn't been serviced for 8 years. It was the second worse one I ever worked on. Luckily I had (and have) lots of that hand cleaner. Even then there was soot everywhere. Even after washing my hands, if I touched my clothes or hair they were black again. Straight home, clothes into washing machine and me into shower with a warning to clean it after use.
Really you would need to charge an extra €50 for such boilers. Next time I see one like that, I am going to say that to the owner and he can like it or lump it.

Due to amount I do, I come across a lot of sooty ones. But I kit up well.
Large woolly hat pulled down, neck warmer pulled up over nose, only eyes exposed.
Full zipped overals with elastic cuffs.
Vinal gloves.
Good Henry vac.

Only part of me that gets dirty is around eyes. Even when I wash it looks like I've sexy eyeliner on !!

Clean hands

I HATE indoor boilers.
Love Soot Breaker
I've 6 pairs of overalls.

My own WM in shed due to house dictatorship.

Wearb

scudo2 wrote: »

Due to amount I do, I come across a lot of sooty ones. But I kit up well.
Large woolly hat pulled down, neck warmer pulled up over nose, only eyes exposed.
Full zipped overals with elastic cuffs.
Vinal gloves.
Good Henry vac.

Only part of me that gets dirty is around eyes. Even when I wash it looks like I've sexy eyeliner on !!

Clean hands

I HATE indoor boilers.
Love Soot Breaker
I've 6 pairs of overalls.

My own WM in shed due to house dictatorship.

You are well kitted out. I would melt with all that.
Don't find the eyeliner very nice. Political correctness prevents me saying what it makes me look like. I end up with red soapy eyes trying to remove it.
Do you charge extra for those really filthy ones?

btw. I used Aldi ash vac on it and I was delighted with performance.

jimf

scudo2 wrote: »

Due to amount I do, I come across a lot of sooty ones. But I kit up well.
Large woolly hat pulled down, neck warmer pulled up over nose, only eyes exposed.
Full zipped overals with elastic cuffs.
Vinal gloves.
Good Henry vac.

Only part of me that gets dirty is around eyes. Even when I wash it looks like I've sexy eyeliner on !!

Clean hands

I HATE indoor boilers.
Love Soot Breaker
I've 6 pairs of overalls.

My own WM in shed due to house dictatorship.

jaysus scudo we know you charge dick turpin prices but you don't have to dress accordingly :eek::eek:

scudo2

jimf wrote: »

jaysus scudo we know you charge dick turpin prices but you don't have to dress accordingly :eek::eek:

I clean up.



EDIT: Nobody complaines about my prices.
+ I do discount for regulars
+ free service for regulars every 10th. service.
Don't tell the wife!


I also know guy's who advertise €50 service.
But rarely leave a house without €250

.ps Stop thanking me Jim !
Its getting worrying.

jimf

scudo2 wrote: »

I clean up.



EDIT: Nobody complaines about my prices.
+ I do discount for regulars
+ free service for regulars every 10th. service.
Don't tell the wife!


I also know guy's who advertise €50 service.
But rarely leave a house without €250

.ps Stop thanking me Jim !
Its getting worrying.

thanks removed for feck sake will you make up your mind it was only last year you wer giving out if we didn't thank you

agusta

Right jim,no more thanks to scudo in 2014,even when scudo is half right:),