Yearly checkup

Klingon Hamlet

Hi

If I get a checkup this month via PRSI am I entitled to another one from Jan 2015 onwards? Or is it 1 per 12 month period?

Thanks

btkm8unsl0w5r4

According to them:

Under this scheme, the Department pays the full cost of an oral examination once a calendar year. The examination is provided by private dentists who are on the Department of Social Protection's panel. Lists of dentists on the panel are available on welfare.ie. Most dentists are on the panel so you should not have any difficulty finding one. The dentist will have the application forms. These forms require details such as your Personal Public Service Number (PPSN). If you are a dependent spouse or civil partner, you should give the PPSN of the insured person.

Why you would have to checkups so close together is another matter.

Klingon Hamlet

Zaria Jealous Gorilla wrote: »

According to them:

Under this scheme, the Department pays the full cost of an oral examination once a calendar year. The examination is provided by private dentists who are on the Department of Social Protection's panel. Lists of dentists on the panel are available on welfare.ie. Most dentists are on the panel so you should not have any difficulty finding one. The dentist will have the application forms. These forms require details such as your Personal Public Service Number (PPSN). If you are a dependent spouse or civil partner, you should give the PPSN of the insured person.

Why you would have to checkups so close together is another matter.

Thanks Fitzgeme. Got a checkup recently and the prices were v high for the work I need done. Other dentists with lower prices insist they have to do their own checkup also, even though I have a detailed list.

Thanks

btkm8unsl0w5r4

Klingon Hamlet wrote: »

Thanks Fitzgeme. Got a checkup recently and the prices were v high for the work I need done. Other dentists with lower prices insist they have to do their own checkup also, even though I have a detailed list.

Thanks

I often wonder why patients would think that a new dentist would launch into surgery without doing their own diagnosis. A dentist is personally liable and does not work to another dentists prescription. Opinions on treatment necessity and options vary also. The dentist also needs to asses your tolerance for treatment and book the appropriate amount of time.

hfallada

Klingon Hamlet wrote: »

Thanks Fitzgeme. Got a checkup recently and the prices were v high for the work I need done. Other dentists with lower prices insist they have to do their own checkup also, even though I have a detailed list.

Thanks

Well I went to a certain national chain of dentists who told me I needed 4 fillings asap. I ignored them and went back for a check up 9 months later in the same branch and was told that because I didn't get filings when I should have, that the decay that spread to the teeth beside the ones I needed the 4 fillings in previous.

I ignored them and went to another dentist and today I had my 3rd and final filling. This dentist has been a dentist for nearly 40 years and I trust him more than an employee for chain of dentist. OP it might be a burden to pay for another check up. But it could save you money

Rucking_Fetard

hfallada wrote: »

Well I went to a certain national chain of dentists who told me I needed 4 fillings asap. I ignored them and went back for a check up 9 months later in the same branch and was told that because I didn't get filings when I should have, that the decay that spread to the teeth beside the ones I needed the 4 fillings in previous.

I ignored them and went to another dentist and today I had my 3rd and final filling. This dentist has been a dentist for nearly 40 years and I trust him more than an employee for chain of dentist. OP it might be a burden to pay for another check up. But it could save you money

How many did ya need....3 instead of the 4 was it??

I read it twice.

hfallada

Rucking_Fetard wrote: »

How many did ya need....3 instead of the 4 was it??

I read it twice.

I needed 3 instead of 8.

Rucking_Fetard

hfallada wrote: »

I needed 3 instead of 8.

Ah right, I get ya now.

"Creative Diagnosis" seems to be on the up in America, no shortage of crooks in all professions here so why would a Dentist be any different.

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/09/dentist-ripping-you-off
http://www.ada.org/en/publications/ada-news/viewpoint/my-view/2013/october/creative-diagnosis

I personally couldn't trust a Dentist as far as I could throw one, will always get second opinion on anything one tells me now....unless I come across one I don't think is a sneaky b@stard.

Have only had to cross paths with one so far so time will tell....


No offence to Dentists on here with the above, have been tempted to send some of ye a PM to see where ye're based on the back of posts on here.

Dianthus

Rucking_Fetard wrote: »

I personally couldn't trust a Dentist as far as I could throw one, will always get second opinion on anything one tells me now....unless I come across one I don't think is a sneaky b@stard.

Most dentists these days operate on a policy of transparency. It would be common enough to shown any problems either with a mirror, an intraoral camera, or digital xray. If you are not shown, ask to be shown. Then there's no doubt, no suspicion, no questions, no confusion.
Understandably enough, if you attend the same dentist at regular 6-monthly intervals, you're far less likely to be "upsold" treatment than if you keep attending lots of different dentists at random intervals.

btkm8unsl0w5r4

Dianthus wrote: »

if you attend the same dentist at regular 6-monthly intervals, you're far less likely to be "upsold" treatment than if you keep attending lots of different dentists at random intervals.

This has been show in several studies to be true. Continuity of care is improtant, its only in McDOnalds you dont care who the chef is.

Rucking_Fetard

Dianthus wrote: »

Understandably enough, if you attend the same dentist at regular 6-monthly intervals, you're far less likely to be "upsold" treatment than if you keep attending lots of different dentists at random intervals.

Watch out for Dentists who built brand new surgerys during the naughties at huge expense.

They have alot to recoup.



Fitz - whats the story with naming crooks on here?

Rucking_Fetard

Zaria Jealous Gorilla wrote: »

This has been show in several studies to be true. Continuity of care is improtant, its only in McDOnalds you dont care who the chef is.

So from that, watch out going to a Dentist for the first time??

Rucking_Fetard

From links i posted abit back, why is their such..."in my opinion" in Dentistry.

One Dentist says no work needed, another said 2 cavities, another said 4, crook said 16?

WTF like, it either does or it doesn't?

Did they miss that day in Dentist school or what??

Their needs to be a fella sent round, like a mystery shopper, to Dentists, checking if they want to do unnecessary work and jail any scumbag that does. That'd stop it fairly quick.

Or get caught - lose their practice.

btkm8unsl0w5r4

Relax there.

Clinical opinion differs. The progress of dental disease is open to interpretation. For instance a small black spot on a tooth like baseline on the pic below.

Dentist A has been looking at your teeth for a number of years and knows this is not progressing decides to monitor it. At 12 month recall he see that it is getting worse and decided to interviene. Result you get a filling.

Dentist B seeing you for the first time, thinks it need intervention and a filling. They review you in 12 months and the filling is fine. Result you get one filling.

Both dentist were right and the final outcome is the same over time.

Its only when you get to large cavities (12m or 20m below) that all dentist will agree intervention is required and at what time. One dentist may think a filling is needed of material A, the other dentist thinks filling material B should be used.

Its the same with doctors and surgeons. It is a science but there is a large aspect of interpretation of the factors that decide upon treatment, and experience of disease progression. Also some dentists like early intervention, and others like to monitor. Generally a dentist you are seeing for the first time will want to tidy everything up first and then monitor going forward#

When choosing a dentist you should think always about continuity of care, people who hop from dentist to dentist in search of bargains will end up with more fillings than those that don't. This is not the fault of the dentists, who are seeing a new patient and doing what in their opinion are clinically necessary procedures. Its a subtle point that in this age where dentistry seem to being boiled down into a fee per item service is hard for patients to understand. Biology is never black and white.

Beano

I have to confirm what Fitzgeme has said about finding a good dentist and sticking with them. Hopping from dentist to dentist is not a good long term strategy. And it is the long term you should be thinking about. I managed to find an excellent dentist 5 or so years ago and i couldnt imagine going to somebody else. The same level of trust wouldnt be there. He is not particularly cheap but that is way down the list of priorities. You might think you cant afford a good dentist but believe me you cant afford a bad one.

davo10

Rucking_Fetard wrote: »

Watch out for Dentists who built brand new surgerys during the naughties at huge expense.

They have alot to recoup.



Fitz - whats the story with naming crooks on here?

These are also the ones that have learned over the last seven years to run their clinics efficiently and to charge prices which are competitive. What a moronic post.

helimachoptor

@ Rucking_Fetard no names allowed.

bureau2009

Zaria Jealous Gorilla wrote: »

Also some dentists like early intervention, and others like to monitor. Generally a dentist you are seeing for the first time will want to tidy everything up first and then monitor going forward

But if a long-term dentist can decide to monitor a tooth with possible decay, surely a NEW dentist can say to a patient "I'd like to see you back in X months, we need to monitor your teeth to see if decay progesses and a filling is required".

And one of my benchmarks for a dentist at the top of their game is one that DOESN'T rush in with a drill.

btkm8unsl0w5r4

Zaria Jealous Gorilla wrote: »

Also some dentists like early intervention, and others like to monitor.

As above, however I have seen dentist that are too reluctant to do intervention. Like all things moderation is the key. Diagnosis is an art and a science. When you have a patient thats bouncing around from dentist to dentist, its better to intervene early as you cannot trust that patient to return at 12 months. Then that patient would go to the next dentist with a mouth full of decay and blame you for doing nothing.