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The link between political belief and profit

  • 09-10-2014 5:27pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,964 ✭✭✭


    With the possibility a coop has taken place in North Korea, we may be set to see a new player on the economic stage.
    If the rumours are true those wanting a change in leadership in North Korea are not doing so to help the starving populous, the politically imprisoned or even disappeared, but because they want to make some money.
    As with China, regardless of politics, human rights or anybody gleefully professing to be Communist or Socialist upsetting the great believers in the market solves all, the world markets and their lackeys, the elected politicians, will be queuing up for a slice of red pie.
    It seems if there's money to be made any political party in government will trip over themselves welcoming the new customers.
    Proving once again that politics is a career not a belief or called based on you social concerns of views.
    Of course we'll get, bringing money in will help the North Korean man on the street...you know, like in China ;)

    Do we think a country should be run 100% like a business? Is political belief more about society than profit? The trickle down effect is a myth, so helping multinationals set up abroad or with tax incentives at home, may help the books to an extent but greatly favours these corporations and in the case of despots, China and possibly now soon to be North Korea.
    All is forgotten, wanna buy a shiny new Donkey?
    Do we sell our political values and beliefs too cheap?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,727 ✭✭✭✭Godge


    For Reals wrote: »
    With the possibility a coop has taken place in North Korea, we may be set to see a new player on the economic stage.
    If the rumours are true those wanting a change in leadership in North Korea are not doing so to help the starving populous, the politically imprisoned or even disappeared, but because they want to make some money.
    As with China, regardless of politics, human rights or anybody gleefully professing to be Communist or Socialist upsetting the great believers in the market solves all, the world markets and their lackeys, the elected politicians, will be queuing up for a slice of red pie.
    It seems if there's money to be made any political party in government will trip over themselves welcoming the new customers.
    Proving once again that politics is a career not a belief or called based on you social concerns of views.
    Of course we'll get, bringing money in will help the North Korean man on the street...you know, like in China ;)

    Do we think a country should be run 100% like a business? Is political belief more about society than profit? The trickle down effect is a myth, so helping multinationals set up abroad or with tax incentives at home, may help the books to an extent but greatly favours these corporations and in the case of despots, China and possibly now soon to be North Korea.
    All is forgotten, wanna buy a shiny new Donkey?
    Do we sell our political values and beliefs too cheap?

    You lost me in the first sentence. There is no way North Korea can become a new player on the economic stage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,964 ✭✭✭For Reals


    Godge wrote: »
    You lost me in the first sentence. There is no way North Korea can become a new player on the economic stage.

    I'm more asking would it be the weirdest thing given our relationship with China for example?
    I often wonder where the money over takes any supposed political belief.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,727 ✭✭✭✭Godge


    For Reals wrote: »
    I'm more asking would it be the weirdest thing given our relationship with China for example?
    I often wonder where the money over takes any supposed political belief.

    I am still lost. What are you trying to suggest?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    Comparing China to North Korea is like comparing apples and dirt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,964 ✭✭✭For Reals


    Comparing China to North Korea is like comparing apples and dirt.

    Not in this context.

    A country broadly condemned for mistreating it's people, have it all forgotten about when they come to market, (China). With word of a possible coup in North Korea because they want to get into business, (not to free their people from oppression but to make the elete more wealthy), (here endeth the comparisons to North Korea/China etc.) I was wondering where the political beliefs go to when there's suddenly a chance at a few bob?
    How can politicians, supposedly with a system of social and moral beliefs, cry fowl and open the till in the same breath?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,248 ✭✭✭✭BoJack Horseman


    Aah.

    The 'flexibility of moral outrage' you mean?

    Hard to tell.
    Were NK to emprace capitalism as China did, the road is so long its hard to see a time when we cowtow to make a quick buck.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,727 ✭✭✭✭Godge


    For Reals wrote: »
    Not in this context.

    A country broadly condemned for mistreating it's people, have it all forgotten about when they come to market, (China). With word of a possible coup in North Korea because they want to get into business, (not to free their people from oppression but to make the elete more wealthy), (here endeth the comparisons to North Korea/China etc.) I was wondering where the political beliefs go to when there's suddenly a chance at a few bob?
    How can politicians, supposedly with a system of social and moral beliefs, cry fowl and open the till in the same breath?

    Who says that they West is going to respond like that?

    If there is a regime change in North Korea, should the West ignore the regime change or reach out to try and normalise relations even if there are some things about the new regime they don't like?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Isn't Kim Jong Un just off doing his operation transformation stint after hitting the cheese too hard?


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