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Today FM and Government Warnings

  • 07-10-2014 11:02am
    #1
    thomas anderson.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭


    Is it just me or is Today FM become a Government Broadcast channel?

    Every ad break there are warnings to pay your TV license, M50 toll, Water Charges, changes to the Penalty Point system etc.


Comments

  • #2
    Meathlass
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Meathlass


    It's called advertising


  • #3
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,188 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Everyone one of those ads would have been sold at a commercial rate to the state agency in question.

    Anyway, its not like those can be classed simply as "Government". Water charges would be Irish Water, a semi-state; tolls may be Beteire Flow (private contractor) or the NRA - not sure which; TV licence would be An Post - semi-state (acting as a private contractor in this case); points are the RSA. So one or two direct Government bodies.


  • #4
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    M50 toll is privately owned - eflow who are French.


  • #5
    LaFleur
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭LaFleur


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    M50 toll is privately owned - eflow who are French.

    Tut Tut...eflow do not own the M50. They merely operate in the collection of fees. The M50 was actually bought by the tax payer a number of years ago.


  • #6
    Yakuza
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,141 ✭✭✭Yakuza


    M50 has been paid for several times over. The toll remains for "traffic management" purposes :mad:


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  • #7
    hullaballoo
    Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,774 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    Build a road to alleviate congestion on primary routes and then put a toll on it to force people back onto the primary routes. Sounds like the type of logic you only get in Ireland but it's rife across Europe.


  • #8
    Lapin
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    hullaballoo wrote: »
    Build a road to alleviate congestion on primary routes and then put a toll on it to force people back onto the primary routes. Sounds like the type of logic you only get in Ireland but it's rife across Europe.

    The M50 was built to to alleviate congestion on secondary routes.


  • #9
    Manach
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,769 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    It is a legal fiction to take semi state bodies as any other than entities controlled by the state. They are established to allow plausible deniability for the government as they pursue the dual mandate of collecting taxes and providing jobs for the boys and girls at board level of government supporters.


  • #10
    former legend
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,309 ✭✭✭former legend


    Manach wrote: »
    It is a legal fiction to take semi state bodies as any other than entities controlled by the state. They are established to allow plausible deniability for the government as they pursue the dual mandate of collecting taxes and providing jobs for the boys and girls at board level of government supporters.

    Yeah!

    What has ANY of this to do with Today FM?


  • #11
    More Music
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 874 ✭✭✭More Music


    former legend wrote: »
    Yeah!

    What has ANY of this to do with Today FM?


    Isn't it obvious? OP is suggesting that Today FM is a semi state body.


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  • #12
    skimpydoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,010 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    former legend wrote: »
    Yeah!

    What has ANY of this to do with Today FM?
    Denis O'Brien


  • #13
    hullaballoo
    Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,774 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    hullaballoo wrote: »
    Build a road to alleviate congestion on primarysecondary routes and then put a toll on it to force people back onto the primarysecondary routes. Sounds like the type of logic you only get in Ireland but it's rife across Europe.
    Lapin wrote: »
    The M50 was built to to alleviate congestion on secondary routes.

    :confused: Hardly changes the point of the post?


  • #14
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,188 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    skimpydoo wrote: »
    Denis O'Brien

    These ads run on every staton, and are all sold commercially at that.


  • #15
    Chun the Unavoidable
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭Chun the Unavoidable


    here is an interesting one from todays today fm/ newstalk news.

    a report says that 1 out of 5 of leaving cert results appeals results in an upgrade. this apparently is good, it means that you should appeal, its all great.

    but it isnt, 3/5 resulted in their grades being downgraded.

    but that wasnt the headline. surely even reading it out the newscasters must have said to their bosses "this is spin" but it was read out at 7.30, 8.00, 8.30, 9.00.....

    dont you have to pay for the appeal, and only get a refund if it is successfull? maybe i am being a cynic.


  • #16
    ThisRegard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Spin on behalf of who ? The state in order to stop kids getting into college ? Just poor editorialising or writing I'd say.


  • #17
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,188 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Chun the Unavoidable wrote: »
    but it isnt, 3/5 resulted in their grades being downgraded.
    .

    No. Three - out of all of them - had their grades downgraded.

    The rest stayed the same.

    You are wildly misinterpreting here.


  • #18
    former legend
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,309 ✭✭✭former legend


    This thread, f**king hell.


  • #19
    Chun the Unavoidable
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭Chun the Unavoidable


    MYOB wrote: »
    No. Three - out of all of them - had their grades downgraded.

    The rest stayed the same.

    You are wildly misinterpreting here.

    I'm saying what I heard on the news, they ballsed it up so.


  • #20
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,188 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Chun the Unavoidable wrote: »
    I'm saying what I heard on the news, they ballsed it up so.

    I'd actually be willing to lay money that if you get a recording of it, it'll be them saying 3 - not 3 out of 5.


  • #21
    Chun the Unavoidable
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭Chun the Unavoidable


    MYOB wrote: »
    I'd actually be willing to lay money that if you get a recording of it, it'll be them saying 3 - not 3 out of 5.

    gambling is immoral and you know that a very serious and extreme comment to make.

    I regard messageboards as being like pub talk. imagine having this conversation in the pub and your mate, or indeed some random says that gambling comment. There would be a silence and everyone would go back to chatting about the match. there may be a shudder down some spines.

    you know, i could have misheard it, but I'm not taking it so personal as to lay money on it, nor get a recording.


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  • #22
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,188 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Chun the Unavoidable wrote: »
    I regard messageboards as being like pub talk. imagine having this conversation in the pub and your mate, or indeed some random says that gambling comment. There would be a silence and everyone would go back to chatting about the match. there may be a shudder down some spines.

    Remind me never to go to the pub with you!


  • #23
    soc160
    Closed Accounts Posts: 522 ✭✭✭soc160


    Chun the Unavoidable wrote: »
    here is an interesting one from todays today fm/ newstalk news.

    a report says that 1 out of 5 of leaving cert results appeals results in an upgrade. this apparently is good, it means that you should appeal, its all great.

    but it isnt, 3/5 resulted in their grades being downgraded.

    but that wasnt the headline. surely even reading it out the newscasters must have said to their bosses "this is spin" but it was read out at 7.30, 8.00, 8.30, 9.00.....

    dont you have to pay for the appeal, and only get a refund if it is successfull? maybe i am being a cynic.


    Both sites have a listen back feature, I couldn't find the audio you talkeb about nut i'm sure that'll settle any wagers....


  • #24
    Chun the Unavoidable
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭Chun the Unavoidable


    MYOB wrote: »
    Remind me never to go to the pub with you!

    cant blame you.


  • #25
    Chun the Unavoidable
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 224 ✭✭Chun the Unavoidable


    soc160 wrote: »
    Both sites have a listen back feature, I couldn't find the audio you talkeb about nut i'm sure that'll settle any wagers....

    ah sure look it, its more than likely I just got it arseways, but you know thats never stopped anyone ringing Joe Duffy so it shouldnt be problem here.


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