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Nct handbrake cable to caliper

  • 05-10-2014 06:16PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭


    Hi guys put the car through the nct and it failed was. Told the handbrake was not tight enough which i knew but also failed cause of something to do with handbrake and back left caliper which is last than two months old and ideals what the problem is and how much to repair.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭Interslice


    swanie29 wrote: »
    Hi guys put the car through the nct and it failed was. Told the handbrake was not tight enough which i knew but also failed cause of something to do with handbrake and back left calbier which is last than two months old and ideals what the problem is and how much to repair.

    Post up the exact wording on the fail sheet(or better still a pic) and make/model and year of the car. Your post is also a little hard to read :).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭swanie29


    Interslice wrote: »
    Post up the exact wording on the fail sheet(or better still a pic) and make/model and year of the car. Your post is also a little hard to read :).

    Ford focus c Max 2005 disel. What i trying to say was told that the left cabiler not braking with the handbrake.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭Interslice


    swanie29 wrote: »
    Ford focus c Max 2005 disel. What i trying to say was told that the left cabiler not braking with the handbrake.


    If it's fine on the foot brake, the handbrake cable could just need adjusting or the cable is siezed or possibly hasn't been reconnected :eek:. If it's siezed a new handbrake cable could be fairly pricey. A hundred odd quid sometimes just for the part. The other problems you should only be paying your mechanics going rate for an hours labour. If it's an electronic brake you could google it for some model specific problems.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭swanie29


    Interslice wrote: »
    If it's fine on the foot brake, the handbrake cable could just need adjusting or the cable is siezed or possibly hasn't been reconnected :eek:. If it's siezed a new handbrake cable could be fairly pricey. A hundred odd quid sometimes just for the part. The other problems you should only be paying your mechanics going rate for an hours labour. If it's an electronic brake you could google it for some model specific problems.

    Crap thought cable be cheaper than that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭Interslice


    swanie29 wrote: »
    Crap thought cable be cheaper than that

    My mate just paid 160 for his direct off mitsubishi. Unfortunately there were no aftermarket options.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭swanie29


    Interslice wrote: »
    My mate just paid 160 for his direct off mitsubishi. Unfortunately there were no aftermarket options.
    Just for a brake cable


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭Interslice


    swanie29 wrote: »
    Just for a brake cable


    That's what I said. It is a bit more complex than that though. It has fittings at either end and they have to be the exact length etc. so you can't just make on up like you can with brake pipes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭swanie29


    Interslice wrote: »
    That's what I said. It is a bit more complex than that though. They have to be the exact length etc. so you can't just make on up like you can with brake pipes.
    Any way to know for sure or mechanic the input the only way to know


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭Interslice


    swanie29 wrote: »
    Any way to know for sure or mechanic the input the only way to know


    You'd have to get a mechanic to look at it really. Number 1 in the diagram is the handbrake lever(a lever with a spring on it). You could make sure it's connected to the cable. Pull the hand brake then to see if it moves. Normally people fail an nct on handbrake imbalance. There is only a tolerance for a certain difference in the brake effort between the two sides. You just have to adjust the cable so they are even. THe handbrake is an emergency brake to stop the car if the hydaulic brakes fail so it has to be even so you don't spin out. Best to get someone who knows what there doing to sort it out.

    http://www.justanswer.com/uk-ford/48y1n-ford-cmax-replace-rear-caliper-pads.html

    2010-11-21_200404_over_view.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,298 ✭✭✭martinr5232


    Why was the calloper replaced in the first place ?? Is it possible your issue was with the cable sticking all along ??

    What year is your car there was some issues with callopers not holding on focus/cmax on around 08/09 cars there was a problem internally in the calloper.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭swanie29


    Why was the calloper replaced in the first place ?? Is it possible your issue was with the cable sticking all along ??

    What year is your car there was some issues with callopers not holding on focus/cmax on around 08/09 cars there was a problem internally in the calloper.
    Brakes wore down uneven two months ago


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,298 ✭✭✭martinr5232


    swanie29 wrote: »
    Brakes wore down uneven two months ago

    You will need to get it checked out by someone who knows what they are looking at.
    You wont get an answer here because people would only be guessing it could be anything from adjustment to a cable or calloper sticking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,860 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    what you need to do is get somebody to pull on and off the handbrake while looking at the movement of the arm,if internal adjustment on handbrake is too tight handbrake cannot function correctly,10mm nut under/around handbrake might need to be slackened off.also if pads are too tight in caliper [ very common issue ] will wear out quicker.
    when internal adjustment on handbrake is let off you should see handbrake lever return to its stop setting and by getting a pliers easily pull cable extra 1/4-1/2 inch.
    presume pads were replaced with caliper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,546 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    moved from DIY


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭swanie29


    swanie29 wrote: »
    Ford focus c Max 2005 disel. What i trying to say was told that the left cabiler not braking with the handbrake.
    Thats it there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭swanie29


    Interslice wrote: »
    Post up the exact wording on the fail sheet(or better still a pic) and make/model and year of the car. Your post is also a little hard to read :).
    so i included a photo of the nct


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,685 ✭✭✭✭wonski


    I would look at the caliper as such a huge imbalance would be difficult to fix by adjusting the cable only.

    You said you replaced it recently. Was it second hand part from scrapyard or a reconditioned one?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭swanie29


    wonski wrote: »
    I would look at the caliper as such a huge imbalance would be difficult to fix by adjusting the cable only.

    You said you replaced it recently. Was it second hand part from scrapyard or a reconditioned one?

    Recon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,786 ✭✭✭slimjimmc


    wonski wrote: »
    I would look at the caliper as such a huge imbalance would be difficult to fix by adjusting the cable only.

    You said you replaced it recently. Was it second hand part from scrapyard or a reconditioned one?
    OP replaced the left (nearside) caliper before the test but the test report shows the offside is 10 times weaker, so it looks like that caliper may need changing too. Even the service brake is weaker on that side.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭swanie29


    slimjimmc wrote: »
    OP replaced the left (nearside) caliper before the test but the test report shows the offside is 10 times weaker, so it looks like that caliper may need changing too. Even the service brake is weaker on that side.
    what that mean guys
    cause the cailber was already changed
    and the right one six months eariler


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,786 ✭✭✭slimjimmc


    swanie29 wrote: »
    what that mean guys
    cause the cailber was already changed
    and the right one six months eariler

    Up until now you never mentioned the right side had been changed, you only mentioned that the left side caliper was changed before the test.


    The NCT results show that the handbrake is good on the left side (nearside) and bad on the right side (offside) so it appears to be a problem with the right side caliper which could still be problematic despite having been replaced 6 months ago. It's possible the problem was there all along but not noticed until the NCT test.
    This seems contrary to what you were previously told.
    swanie29 wrote: »
    Ford focus c Max 2005 disel. What i trying to say was told that the left cabiler not braking with the handbrake.
    You won't know for certain until it's checked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭swanie29


    slimjimmc wrote: »
    Up until now you never mentioned the right side had been changed, you only mentioned that the left side caliper was changed before the test.


    The NCT results show that the handbrake is good on the left side (nearside) and bad on the right side (offside) so it appears to be a problem with the right side caliper which could still be problematic despite having been replaced 6 months ago. It's possible the problem was there all along but not noticed until the NCT test.
    This seems to contrary to what you were previously told.

    You won't know for certain until it's checked.
    I getting confused now guys. Sorry i thought it was the left side but maybe in what you are saying and based on the pictures is the problem the right cabiler.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭swanie29


    swanie29 wrote: »
    I getting confused now guys. Sorry i thought it was the left side but maybe in what you are saying and based on the pictures is the problem the right cabiler.
    could the problem be the cabiler and not the brake cable


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,786 ✭✭✭slimjimmc


    swanie29 wrote: »
    could the problem be the cabiler and not the brake cable
    It could be either. You wont know until it's properly checked out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,860 ✭✭✭greasepalm


    did you read post 14?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 245 ✭✭swanie29


    greasepalm wrote: »
    did you read post 14?

    Yes


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