treating posts

caseman

Any ideas an what to treat posts with,they only seems to last 4 or 5 years now .
Thinking of getting a large container dipping them in burned oil
Any info welcome.

inis3

can treat them with sodium flouride dipped 3 days and then copper sulphate 3 more days i have treated posts 28 years ago and still sound

Connemara Farmer

inis3 wrote: »

can treat them with sodium flouride dipped 3 days and then copper sulphate 3 more days i have treated posts 28 years ago and still sound

What's sodium fluoride, know nothing about it. 28 years is a long time compared to the sugar sticks some places call stakes. I don't put many in the ground, usually into dry walls which extends life but that may change in the medium term. Is it expensive, hard to handle or dispose of or anything like that? More to the point I suppose, is it toxic and will bought stakes take it?

caseman

inis3 wrote: »

can treat them with sodium flouride dipped 3 days and then copper sulphate 3 more days i have treated posts 28 years ago and still sound

Thanks for that inis3, 28 years is a good life span for timber posts.
Where can you source sodium flouride.

bogman_bass

my first question would be what type of wood are those posts made from?

DarByrne1980

would you be better off just bying some pressure treated posts instead of messing about with mixing ur own treatments? Have you the fence erected? If the posts are already down than youre not goin to be able to treat the bottom of them and that's where the problems are going to be.

caseman

DarByrne1980 wrote: »

would you be better off just bying some pressure treated posts instead of messing about with mixing ur own treatments? Have you the fence erected? If the posts are already down than youre not goin to be able to treat the bottom of them and that's where the problems are going to be.

These are pressure treated posts i'm buying but their not lasting any lenght of time.

micky mouse

there was a lad selling a product at the ploughing that u put on the bit of the post underground seals it from moisture,thought I had a brouchue for it but don,t maybe someone might have a number for ya.

wayoutwest

Fenceposts made from Larch will last longer than those made of Spruce.

Username John

wayoutwest wrote: »

Fenceposts made from Larch will last longer than those made of Spruce.

We have a larch wood, I have been meaning to cut some tress for posts. Do you know how long an untreated Larch post would be expected to last?

wayoutwest

Not sure John, but Larch is denser, stronger and more durable than Spruce, so it will last longer Being water durable, it is used for building boats and making esb poles, gates, fence panels and... fenceposts.

Peppa Cig

Native larch posts are very good but hard to source these days. Imported larch more widely available but not near as good.

PDM creosete posts best option imo.

Widely available from your nearest FRS fencing depot.

wayoutwest

I don't think that native larch would be hard to source - I would imagine that most sawmills would be able to supply larch posts.
P.S -Just googled 'larch fenceposts ireland' and theres plenty of people selling them.

Green farmer

The modern creosote isn't a patch on the stuff 15 years ago.

Longford Leader

micky mouse wrote: »

there was a lad selling a product at the ploughing that u put on the bit of the post underground seals it from moisture,thought I had a brouchue for it but don,t maybe someone might have a number for ya.

I seen him too, I think it was called tuff dip or something like that.

I do remember he was from Mullingar.

Oldtree

caseman wrote: »

Any ideas an what to treat posts with,they only seems to last 4 or 5 years now .
Thinking of getting a large container dipping them in burned oil
Any info welcome.

Not an appropiate thing to do, bad idea all round, burned oil is carcinogenic and needs to be disposed of properly.

jerryg

http://www.tuffdip.com/

inis3

Connemara Farmer wrote: »

What's sodium fluoride, know nothing about it. 28 years is a long time compared to the sugar sticks some places call stakes. I don't put many in the ground, usually into dry walls which extends life but that may change in the medium term. Is it expensive, hard to handle or dispose of or anything like that? More to the point I suppose, is it toxic and will bought stakes take it?

Hi.Ordinary spruce thinnings were used freshly cut as they take in chemicals better then, Teagasc forerunner ACOT had a leaflet on it which i have,could maybe email it which gives all the details on how to do it. Not an expert on computers any other way? Not sure how toxic sodium flouride is but councils put it in our water that we drink, not to be confused with sodium chloride which is salt . my CO OP can get it for me and copper sulphate is Bluestone which they can get too.