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How long would it take to learn Irish from scratch to enable me to do the HDIP

  • 25-09-2014 3:03pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13


    Hi,

    I'm English living in Dublin, with no chance to move back home.
    I want to do the HDIP but am restricted because I don't have level C3 honors in leaving cert Irish.

    I did Spanish as a degree and French to a good standard, so I do have a flare for languages.
    However, I'm told Irish is like no other.

    Can anyone advise how long it would realistically take me to learn and pass to enable me to do the HDIP?

    Can you also advise on the best way for me to learn irish.
    Needless to say I only have cúpla focal in irish!!

    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,792 ✭✭✭Postgrad10


    Firstly is it primary or post primary teaching you want to do?

    For post primary teaching , you need to do what's called a PME which is a two year course at the NUI colleges! DCU, or Hibernia college. You may also do a two year PME in UL in Languages. Check PAC.ie for more info. No higher level irish required for this. TCD Also.

    For primary, you need Irish to c3 level at honours leaving cert or higher. It can take a bit of hard work but it's achievable since you like languages. Then you can apply to St Pat's, Colaiste Mhuire Marino, NUIM, Mary I, and Hibernia.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 429 ✭✭Afroshack


    MS L H wrote: »
    Hi,

    I'm English living in Dublin, with no chance to move back home.
    I want to do the HDIP but am restricted because I don't have level C3 honors in leaving cert Irish.

    I did Spanish as a degree and French to a good standard, so I do have a flare for languages.
    However, I'm told Irish is like no other.

    Can anyone advise how long it would realistically take me to learn and pass to enable me to do the HDIP?

    Can you also advise on the best way for me to learn irish.
    Needless to say I only have cúpla focal in irish!!

    Thanks


    Are you looking to do primary or secondary? You don't need it at all for secondary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 204 ✭✭readystudypass


    You could check out www.teg.ie and http://www.teg.ie/english/faq.htm#20
    as an alternative to doing the leaving cert irish


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,099 ✭✭✭RealJohn


    Much like any other language, it's not that hard to learn if you actually put a bit of effort in. Ignore the people who tell you that it's hard. 99% of them are just making excuses for themselves. Best of luck with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 MS L H


    Sorry, it's primary that I'm looking into.
    Spanish secondary jobs seem to be few and far between.

    Thanks for your advice!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 MS L H


    I have been reading up about TEG, but can't seem to find any timetables for lessons.
    Am I right in thinking that this is just an exam board?

    I am working full time, so would have to learn outside of my 9-5 hours.

    Any more advice on TEG/places to study irish/good courses would be much appreciated.

    Thank you!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 204 ✭✭readystudypass


    Sorry - I don't know anymore about TEG than what is on their website. I don't know how popular it is. Maybe doing the leaving cert would be simpler. Or if TEG can work for you then you could try both exams. Best of luck :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 269 ✭✭bearhugs


    It would depend on your own determination. There are courses that focus on the the Leaving Cert Irish exam which you will usually find at Adult Education Centres or VECs. If you were to take a beginners class before one of these and get yourself some kind of book to help, I would think you could start in September and do the Leaving Cert exam next summer. The only thing is it would be massive work to get to a decent standard by next September, and you've mentioned you work full time. One on one lessons would help as well. Only you will know if you have the time and determination. Best of luck!


  • Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    How much spare time have you available?

    If you could do it full-time, listening to Radio Na Gaeltachta during the day and watching TG4 at night you could be putting native speakers to shame by next June.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 909 ✭✭✭gaeilgebeo


    I would strongly advise you to get one to one grinds.
    I have worked with many people in your exact position.
    I do not think an online course/class or working away at it yourself is putting you in the best position for passing the exam.4

    If you intend to sit the HL paper next June, you'd really need to get started on the coursework, particularly the oral exam.


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