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Is there even one way this could work for ground and flight crew?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,949 ✭✭✭A Primal Nut


    Can't see it applying to shift workers, which flight crew and many ground crew are; or frontline retail staff. It's more for office workers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭circular flexing


    Lustrum wrote: »
    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/uk/virgin-to-allow-staff-unlimited-leave-if-work-up-to-date-1.1941201

    Basically, Richard Branson is giving his staff unlimited annual leave as long as their work and projects are up to date, and the time they take doesn't impact on their performance.

    I can't imagine the flight crew or any ground crew will be any happier this morning - maybe he'll give everyone that can't do this a pay rise!!

    It's only for Virgin Group staff - this does not include an employees of any Virgin airlines.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 10,005 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tenger


    Yup sounds great for the media. Important element is the "up to date on work and projects" So perfect for the staff member who has just finished a 4 month project on a revamped media campaign/inflight menu/ refurbished business class seats/B787 contract negotiations etc.

    Not so much for the flight/cabin/ground crew who have to work 160 hours per month (or 90 block hours) to be up to date with work contractual obligations.



    Great PR for allowing less than 200 staff to avail of this:
    .....- this is only for direct employees of the Virgin Group of which there are approx 170....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭circular flexing


    Tenger wrote: »
    Yup sounds great for the media. Important element is the "up to date on work and projects" So perfect for the staff member who has just finished a 4 month project on a revamped media campaign/inflight menu/ refurbished business class seats/B787 contract negotiations etc.

    Not so much for the flight/cabin/ground crew who have to work 160 hours per month (or 90 block hours) to be up to date with work contractual obligations.

    Once again, this does not apply to any member of any Virgin airlines staff - this is only for direct employees of the Virgin Group of which there are approx 170

    http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/sep/24/virgin-staff-take-as-much-holiday-as-like-richard-branson


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 759 ✭✭✭Lustrum


    Tenger wrote: »

    Great PR for allowing less than 200 staff to avail of this:


    I didn't realise it would only impact so few staff....not that newsworthy after all!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 472 ✭✭folbotcar


    Most likely the very people it would apply to are those who take least amount of leave. The type of people who put in the hours and the long weekends. I would have thought it was a double edged sword though. Even if you want a standard two weeks off in the summer you might find it refused because a project is due in at a certain date. Although I doubt that's the motivation. Clearly it's aimed at those workers who are pretty valuable to the company. Finishing a big project then having a month off. Sounds good and it encourages them to hit the due date. Works for both sides.

    But I don't think I've ever being in a job where that would work. On the contrary I found it difficult to take leave sometimes often carrying forward time and making it more difficult to use. Least of all in flying. I doubt my boss would appreciate me taking a month off during peak season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    Lustrum wrote: »
    I didn't realise it would only impact so few staff....not that newsworthy after all!

    Everyone from politicians to business people seem to rely on the public not reading the small print when it comes to stories such as this. 99% of the time it pays off famously for them!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,431 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    We have a similar system, during quiet periods we can take whatever time off we want, I plan to take a week off in Ireland during October followed by two weeks in Bali later in the month, none of this will be vacation, as I will take a month off in December.
    Keeps the work force happy and willing to do 20-30 hour duties when required.


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