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Puncture

  • 23-09-2014 5:19am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,918 ✭✭✭


    I got a screw in my tyre. It seemed to go in straight. The tyre didn't fully deflate, but I have the spare on.

    There is barely 5,000km on the tyre and the car isn't worth much.

    In the past when I have had a puncture,I have always had to replace the tyre, yet I've heard of punctures being repaired. They always then recommend you get two tyres.

    Is it likely that my puncture can be repaired? Do tyre yards make more money / less effort to sell you a tyre than to fix it?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭degsie


    Of course it can be repaired. Can't believe you fell for the 'you'll need two new tyres' trick.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭Avns1s


    It can be repaired depending on where the puncture is. If it's on the thread the chances are it should be repairable with a patch but if it's on the sidewall it shouldn't be repaired for safety reasons.

    It's a bit unfair to generalise on the tyre fitters without knowing where the punctures were!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,918 ✭✭✭Terrontress


    It's right in the tread, in the recessed part, in between the bit which contracts the Road.

    I've been driving for 21 years, I've owned a car for 14 years and I have never had a puncture repaired but bought many tyres, always two at a time from numerous places, North and South.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭visual


    Ask for puncture repair
    most places will repair if they realise a sale isnt on the cards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭240 Robert


    You should try to do a car maintenance course sometime if you can find one, it is surprising what you would learn about cars.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,918 ✭✭✭Terrontress


    240 Robert wrote: »
    You should try to do a car maintenance course sometime if you can find one, it is surprising what you would learn about cars.

    I'm not afraid to get stuck in, I disassembled the centre console recently to change defective window switches and have done numerous other jobs with the help of the Haynes manual. I've just always left tyres to the specialists as I can't take one off the rim myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    If it's not in sidewall, or close, it can be repaired.

    More threads on the topic you can have a read of
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=90194878
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=83104632


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭nc19


    degsie wrote: »
    Of course it can be repaired. Can't believe you fell for the 'you'll need two new tyres' trick.

    How the fug can you say it was a trick when you dont know the condition of the tyres on the OPs car at the time???

    do you have the winning lotto numbers too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Well according to OP the tyres seems in good nick, except for the screw.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭nc19


    I got a screw in my tyre. It seemed to go in straight. The tyre didn't fully deflate, but I have the spare on.

    There is barely 5,000km on the tyre and the car isn't worth much.

    In the past when I have had a puncture,I have always had to replace the tyre, yet I've heard of punctures being repaired. They always then recommend you get two tyres.

    Is it likely that my puncture can be repaired? Do tyre yards make more money / less effort to sell you a tyre than to fix it?

    It all depends on how far you drove on the tyre while it was deflated and the position of the puncture.

    When a tyre is driven on flat or under inflated a lot of heat is generated which damages the side wall thus making the unrepairable.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭nc19


    biko wrote: »
    Well according to OP the tyres seems in good nick, except for the screw.

    the op doesnt seem to me to be very knowledgeable on the subject of tyres to me so I wouldnt put a whole lot of stock into his opinion

    @OP - pics of the tyres?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,755 ✭✭✭degsie


    nc19 wrote: »
    How the fug can you say it was a trick when you dont know the condition of the tyres on the OPs car at the time???

    do you have the winning lotto numbers too?
    No need to be so smart. I was going on the details provided by the op.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,918 ✭✭✭Terrontress


    nc19 wrote: »
    It all depends on how far you drove on the tyre while it was deflated and the position of the puncture.

    When a tyre is driven on flat or under inflated a lot of heat is generated which damages the side wall thus making the unrepairable.
    I drove about 5k after I believe I got the puncture. If it was more than that, it was no more than 10k.

    I think that the screw was sticking up vertically as the wheel rotated, causing the wheel to lift slightly each rotation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭Avns1s


    I drove about 5k after I believe I got the puncture. If it was more than that, it was no more than 10k.

    I think that the screw was sticking up vertically as the wheel rotated, causing the wheel to lift slightly each rotation.


    It doesn't matter that the screw was in it so long as it was in the threaded area of the tyre.
    Was the tyre nearly fully deflated as you were driving on it? Also, is there scuffing or other marks on the sidewalls of the tyre from driving on it underinflated?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 157 ✭✭loco-colo


    I read the links referenced above.

    The guy I go to and have done for years always fixes a puncture by shooting in the little shot of rubber or whatever it is - Have to say I thought it was a brilliant invention - in and out in a couple of minutes for a tenner.

    And I never recall having any problems with it - I would say I may have got a couple of years out of some of those repairs - I thought this was the Standard and that the patch was history.

    I realise what the links say and respect the knowledge of the posters - it may have worked for me as I would be a fairly conservative driver and would not be putting any major throttle on - 30 miles on the M50 per day - speed about 65.

    This guy has never tried to sell me tyres if he can fix the puncture - will name him if anybody wants - South dublin area - Anyway, the plugs worked for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    I drove about 5k after I believe I got the puncture. If it was more than that, it was no more than 10k.
    What he is asking for is: did you drive on the tyre while there was no air in it?
    Even 50 meters, or less, on a fully deflated tyre will ruin it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,267 ✭✭✭visual


    You need a patch fitted as plugs are only for temporary use.

    A lot of fitters will try get away using a plug as its handy and quick but good tyre fitter will take off the tyre inspect it. Clean the area in side tyre and glue in patch, refit tyre balance wheel and fit back on car for similar price

    I have gotten plug repairs in the past but knowing the difference now wouldn't accept a plug anymore and insist on patch or I go elsewhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    A plug takes 30 seconds. A properly carried out patch repair will take 10 minutes. It's easy to guess which costs more.

    It's also easy to guess that most people go for the plug option.

    Whenever I get a puncture on my own car I patch it rather than plug it. But speaking from experience I see no problem plugging a tyre as long as it is in the middle 2/3 of the thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭bulleyes


    If its a run flat tyre, as far a I know it will need to be replaced not repaired.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 58 ✭✭GoTheDistance


    Just kind of along the lines of this thread - how much does 'tracking' costs for front wheels of a family car? Is this done when your getting new tires on the car or is it something done separately?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭Avns1s


    Just kind of along the lines of this thread - how much does 'tracking' costs for front wheels of a family car? Is this done when your getting new tires on the car or is it something done separately?

    Most cars require "4 wheel tracking" at this stage. It's totally separate from getting new tyres though some people will get it done at the same time. It should cost approx. €40.


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